Peterborough v Belle Vue - Prem Mon 15th July

[Crump99]

1 hour ago, wtf said:

You have so got that the wrong way round I'm afraid Grip equals gate and go, slick equals good racing. I agree with the modern day lack of throttle control

 

I'd say it has to be somewhere between the two for good racing.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

3 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

I'd say it has to be somewhere between the two for good racing.

Agree - efrectively like preparing 2 tracks in 1 with a slicker inside and a proper outside dirt line

Gives both the white line shorter distance  kerb crawler and the balls out fence scraping thrill merchant a chance

[HGould]

14 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Agree - efrectively like preparing 2 tracks in 1 with a slicker inside and a proper outside dirt line

Gives both the white line shorter distance  kerb crawler and the balls out fence scraping thrill merchant a chance

sounds good in theory but doesn't work in practise.

slick inner still produces its own dirt, when that dirt develops the outer already deep gets so deep it's too deep and kills engine.

several bigger tracks have tried it.

even the  vaunted Belle Vue can end up with a gate to the dirt line and one line.

 

 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

12 minutes ago, HGould said:

sounds good in theory but doesn't work in practise.

slick inner still produces its own dirt, when that dirt develops the outer already deep gets so deep it's too deep and kills engine.

several bigger tracks have tried it.

even the  vaunted Belle Vue can end up with a gate to the dirt line and one line.

 

 

Then its down to how good your trackman is.....

Certainly there is no exact science and even the very best cant get it right every time.

If however you deliberately dont even try then thats when you guarantee it to be rubbish 

[HGould]

2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Then its down to how good your trackman is.....

Certainly there is no exact science and even the very best cant get it right every time.

If however you deliberately dont even try then thats when you guarantee it to be rubbish 

we are lucky to have "Terry the Track" at Brum now and he is producing excellent strips same at Redcar.

A lot of the best old track men have gone and departed sadly or too old and retired.

[Crump99]

1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Agree - efrectively like preparing 2 tracks in 1 with a slicker inside and a proper outside dirt line

Gives both the white line shorter distance  kerb crawler and the balls out fence scraping thrill merchant a chance

Yes but you don't need to prepare it to that extent. Just let it develop during the meeting. One of the better meetings this season was when we didn't get the bull about track records, just prepared a sensible track and all but left it for the whole meeting. The racing was terrific. Although the track this season has been a bit of a dogs in racing terms, to be fair to Chapman, inconsistency of track preparation has been an issue for many seasons at the EoES, mainly due to long breaks between meetings meaning it's always like starting again. When there's a group of meetings then they seem to get some consistency but we quickly return to square one when you can't see the next meeting over the horizon.

[Bagpuss]

12 hours ago, waytogo28 said:

Dire Times are clearly the result of Dire Leadership. Go Now! ( as the song goes ) Chapman & Godfrey. Nothing but an imaginative restructuring can save UK speedway from it's looming demise and C&G are incapable of that. " My way is the best and only way". Hmmm.

Agree but I don’t think anybody currently involved could do what is necessary to save British Speedway. Needs a third party who can see potential to come in, grab it by the scruff of the neck and see the wood for the trees.