John Scrutton Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 The track was unrideable and a danger according to some experts ?? did anyone Tell Bjerre and Fricke ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 any news on Josh Bates - just saw him disappearing at back of shot just after Tatum had mentioned a grippy patch on bend and they didn't show again. some reference that he was "out cold"... whilst I hope he and all others are OK the young man really does need to quit whilst he still has all of his faculties intact as this is 3rd time this season he has been injured, come back and injured again within 2-3 meetings. First one was not his fault I was there but others have been just erratic riding out of his comfort limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, John Scrutton said: The track was unrideable and a danger according to some experts ?? did anyone Tell Bjerre and Fricke ?? Got to agree you want racing you put some grip down you want gate and go you make it slick .some of the younger riders can only turn the throttle one way these tracks were the norm in 60s/70s and the old Jap was harder to ride than the laydown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 The track certainly wasn't dangerous. As is the way of the world these days, people are over-sensitive. A rider picks up a little grip once in one race and people go overboard with the criticism. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Missed this last night so watched it earlier today, wish I'd read this first! Sad to see what was a wonderful track producing such dull racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Dont think anyone would of bet on Ty Proctor being joint TR holder at Peterborough. Spot on. He's actually riding the showground quite well tbf Bellego is also now available another who I think would be better than what we have the same applies to Wells. We all know the big issue though and that's missing heat leaders Edited July 16, 2019 by Flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Scrutton said: The track was unrideable and a danger according to some experts ?? did anyone Tell Bjerre and Fricke ?? Not the best example. Bjerre's had his moments: Panthers team boss Trevor Swales was gracious in defeat, saying: “To be honest, we were just beaten by the better side. Coventry were the better team over both legs and we just weren’t good enough. “I feel sorry for the fans, because they have stuck by us all season and we have just thrown it away. I feel for the fans, I feel for Rick and Julie, I feel for the staff here, everyone... because we have thrown away a whole season’s worth of effort. I’m disappointed in the boys, because some of them didn’t have the will tonight. I don’t care what they say about the track, you have to get on and ride it. “They had the wrong attitude; and they beat themselves at five o’clock, when they saw the track. PETERBOROUGH 44 (Kenneth Bjerre 1:1 (0-1:1-0-0) And on that evening Chris Harris got 13 so nobody told him either. Even Batchelor got 8 and he moaned most weeks about something or other. Edited July 16, 2019 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 7 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Have to admit, that was the first time I seen speedway from Peterborough, heard so much about the great race track......... so disappointed. That was rubbish. From the time Kelvin did the track test with his screwdriver I though “that looks like same material as KLynn”. Complete rubbish meeting. Poor advert for speedway, very poor. How much is British speedway payin BT to show it? After Silverstone, fantastic tennis on Sunday, and England winning World Cup cricket...... then Ultra drab speedway. The ref must have been a Panthers fan, some weird decisions, especially the Scott Nichols tape movement when already on a warning, disadvantaged himself so much at the start, allowed back in to win.... Crazy. sorry for the riders who were injured, hope they all recover well. NOT their fault, especially Bewley. 100% track fault, and that goes straight to the door of Chapman. What he is doing to British Speedway is disgraceful. Not liked the man since he butted his nose into the BV stadium affair/Gordon-Morton. Just one negative re BV, or more precisely Bjerre, yes he got a fantastic maximum last night, probably aimed firmly at Chapman. But, can’t he see the benefit of team riding, just looking after a team mate a bit, just like Fricke did with Lidsey. i really can’t see BT renewing a TV contract with British speedway. Which mean I will be paying just to watch the GP’s - which, generally speaking, are good value. Sad night for British speedway. Agree with most of that, it was a shame the track was so grippy on the inside. Re: Nicholls, he wasn't already on a warning, so ref treated it consistently with anyone else moving at the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Have to admit, that was the first time I seen speedway from Peterborough, heard so much about the great race track......... so disappointed. That was rubbish. From the time Kelvin did the track test with his screwdriver I though “that looks like same material as KLynn”. Complete rubbish meeting. Poor advert for speedway, very poor. How much is British speedway payin BT to show it? After Silverstone, fantastic tennis on Sunday, and England winning World Cup cricket...... then Ultra drab speedway. The ref must have been a Panthers fan, some weird decisions, especially the Scott Nichols tape movement when already on a warning, disadvantaged himself so much at the start, allowed back in to win.... Crazy. sorry for the riders who were injured, hope they all recover well. NOT their fault, especially Bewley. 100% track fault, and that goes straight to the door of Chapman. What he is doing to British Speedway is disgraceful. Not liked the man since he butted his nose into the BV stadium affair/Gordon-Morton. Just one negative re BV, or more precisely Bjerre, yes he got a fantastic maximum last night, probably aimed firmly at Chapman. But, can’t he see the benefit of team riding, just looking after a team mate a bit, just like Fricke did with Lidsey. i really can’t see BT renewing a TV contract with British speedway. Which mean I will be paying just to watch the GP’s - which, generally speaking, are good value. Sad night for British speedway. A bit OTT? I have seen far worse meetings om Sky/BT. The racing was ok, but like all tracks some nights produce better racing than others. As for the track, I didn't see too much wrong with it, again, we have seen tracks at Poole that are far worse than what we saw last night. I have not been to the showground in years, but I always used to like my visits there and generally some good racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Congratulations to Pearson, I am fairly sure that's the first TV meeting of the season he's not mentioned Hancock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TheReturn said: Congratulations to Pearson, I am fairly sure that's the first TV meeting of the season he's not mentioned Hancock. You mean Nigel 'very much so' Pearson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just started watching this and must admit it seems a different meeting to all the negativity posted however I've had to record the rerun tomorrow because the taping cut out at heat 12, I imagine watching it live must have been a nightmare . I've definitely seen worse meetings tho and the track doesn't seem that bad tbh especially compared to some of the Poole shambles. Unless there's worse to come in heats 12-15 there's only really the Josh Bates crash in heat 2 and let's be honest Josh could come off on a billiard shaped speedway track and the Charles Wright incident which again could happen anywhere. I suppose watching 30 minutes on play back rather than live makes a massive difference but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some are making out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 13 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Have to admit, that was the first time I seen speedway from Peterborough, heard so much about the great race track......... so disappointed. That was rubbish. From the time Kelvin did the track test with his screwdriver I though “that looks like same material as KLynn”. Complete rubbish meeting. Poor advert for speedway, very poor. How much is British speedway payin BT to show it? After Silverstone, fantastic tennis on Sunday, and England winning World Cup cricket...... then Ultra drab speedway. The ref must have been a Panthers fan, some weird decisions, especially the Scott Nichols tape movement when already on a warning, disadvantaged himself so much at the start, allowed back in to win.... Crazy. sorry for the riders who were injured, hope they all recover well. NOT their fault, especially Bewley. 100% track fault, and that goes straight to the door of Chapman. What he is doing to British Speedway is disgraceful. Not liked the man since he butted his nose into the BV stadium affair/Gordon-Morton. Just one negative re BV, or more precisely Bjerre, yes he got a fantastic maximum last night, probably aimed firmly at Chapman. But, can’t he see the benefit of team riding, just looking after a team mate a bit, just like Fricke did with Lidsey. i really can’t see BT renewing a TV contract with British speedway. Which mean I will be paying just to watch the GP’s - which, generally speaking, are good value. Sad night for British speedway. Not the best of races I've seen from there but here's an example of how it was at the EOS just 13yrs ago, I'm fairly sure this was the meeting where Richard Hall was worth the entrance money on his own, leg trailing round the boards giving it big handfuls of throttle, it really was one of the best tracks we've had in this country. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RveajgjeTAE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, bruno said: Just started watching this and must admit it seems a different meeting to all the negativity posted however I've had to record the rerun tomorrow because the taping cut out at heat 12, I imagine watching it live must have been a nightmare . I've definitely seen worse meetings tho and the track doesn't seem that bad tbh especially compared to some of the Poole shambles. Unless there's worse to come in heats 12-15 there's only really the Josh Bates crash in heat 2 and let's be honest Josh could come off on a billiard shaped speedway track and the Charles Wright incident which again could happen anywhere. I suppose watching 30 minutes on play back rather than live makes a massive difference but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some are making out Trust me it was painful to watch live last night, must have been even worse for the few in attendance. You're right there were a couple of reasonable races and we have suffered worse nights from elsewhere in recent times, for my part my expectations were high due to the recent track records, I mistakenly thought this would mean good, fast racing, maybe if read some of the Panthers fans posts over recent times I would have lowered my expectations and not been so disappointed with what was served up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, nw42 said: Not the best of races I've seen from there but here's an example of how it was at the EOS just 13yrs ago, I'm fairly sure this was the meeting where Richard Hall was worth the entrance money on his own, leg trailing round the boards giving it big handfuls of throttle, it really was one of the best tracks we've had in this country. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RveajgjeTAE Comparing that night to last night’s meeting really does show how standards have slipped in all areas of the sport...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, bruno said: Just started watching this and must admit it seems a different meeting to all the negativity posted however I've had to record the rerun tomorrow because the taping cut out at heat 12, I imagine watching it live must have been a nightmare . I've definitely seen worse meetings tho and the track doesn't seem that bad tbh especially compared to some of the Poole shambles. Unless there's worse to come in heats 12-15 there's only really the Josh Bates crash in heat 2 and let's be honest Josh could come off on a billiard shaped speedway track and the Charles Wright incident which again could happen anywhere. I suppose watching 30 minutes on play back rather than live makes a massive difference but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some are making out I've just done the same, watched until the recording cut out and set to record tomorrow morning, hopefully edited to get the whole meeting. Added to that I was also there and I've certainly seen worse. Even the delays were not too bad. It was a nice evening and time didn't seem to drag as it often does during long delays. Regarding the BT programme, I was actually enjoying that as well. I've certainly seen worse on the box: 4 heats I suffered from King Lynn last week or whenever it was for starters, as for Poole, say no more squire . I'm also not known for my positivity so for me to agree with much of such a post is rather unusual. Edited July 17, 2019 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Comparing that night to last night’s meeting really does show how standards have slipped in all areas of the sport...... They've dummed it down year on year from around that time and removed the quality so it's hardly a surprise. In 2001 it was a case of Many Elite League promoters had to be convinced it was worth contributing £10,000 apiece to help cover production costs of live television coverage two seasons ago. Last year the deal continued with no money involved exchanged, but this season brings the pay-off. Sky have agreed a £3 million television deal for five years and are chipping in an additional £150,000 for a season's sponsorship of the league. How the hell have we arrived at the shambles we are in from that position of strength. Edited July 17, 2019 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Dire Times are clearly the result of Dire Leadership. Go Now! ( as the song goes ) Chapman & Godfrey. Nothing but an imaginative restructuring can save UK speedway from it's looming demise and C&G are incapable of that. " My way is the best and only way". Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Re my post early Tuesday 16 July where I was critical of the Peterborough track, that post was written out of frustration. Yes, the track was rubbish on Monday night against BV, but my words were meant to be against most of the TV matches I seen this year. They generally speaking are not presented as good tracks fit for close racing, IMO. Having said that, from P'borough track going from good racing to what was served on Monday is terrible, and I not having a go at riders there, they can only ride whats presented before them. So sorry if I offended any Panther supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Booey boy said: Got to agree you want racing you put some grip down you want gate and go you make it slick .some of the younger riders can only turn the throttle one way these tracks were the norm in 60s/70s and the old Jap was harder to ride than the laydown You have so got that the wrong way round I'm afraid Grip equals gate and go, slick equals good racing. I agree with the modern day lack of throttle control Edited July 17, 2019 by wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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