Sheffield v Eastbourne

[ruckerroo]

Same old story from eastie away really, 2,3 and either 6 or 7 struggling.

Kennett has too many away tracks he doesn't like too.

Sounds like barring mishaps the defeat could have been greater.

Every other side struggling is strengthening ………….

Well done to sheffield

[spin king junior]

1 hour ago, Richard Weston said:

Still insufficient experience. Saw it with my own eyes at your place yesterday.

What was up with his performance yesterday? Scored 5, got a race win and worked his arse off to pass bowtell for 3rd.

[Tigerblade]

Ideally Drew would still be reserve, unfortunately the two we signed up as second string have ended up injured and dropped. Still don't know how Bowtell missed him when he fell after Heat 6, though!

As for the meeting as a whole, well it was more or less the reserves making a difference (I was right for once ha ha), but everyone played their part, and had it not been for engine failures by Zaine and Chunk, the winning margin could have been bigger. 

[Byker Biker]

9 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

You obviously missed his crash? Perhaps you were not there.

Crashing like that shows the inexperience.Could have wiped out the rest of his season and also caused collateral damage.

Red mist?

Maybe he was given a Polish warning and had to ride out of his skin, or else!

[spin king junior]

43 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

You obviously missed his crash? Perhaps you were not there.

Crashing like that shows the inexperience.Could have wiped out the rest of his season and also caused collateral damage.

Red mist?

Or maybe it's a little bit apprehensive to judge someone on one incident and call them out for "insufficient experience" lads a talent. And perhaps if you'd seen him in more than one meeting, you'd see that. For a 16 year old kid he's pulled off some cracking moves round owlerton this season.

 

If there's one problem with Kemp it's a lack of confidence as he was a completely different rider from the start of the season. But he's looking to come back to form now and pick up from where he started.

[Fromafar]

I find it difficult to understand how some can say he is out of his depth at CH level, anybody who saw him at Belle Vue  U21 Final on Sat surely would disagree ,he maybe is suffering from a little lack of confidence at certain times but he certainly has the skills to compete at this level.

[spin king]

On 7/13/2019 at 8:12 PM, Richard Weston said:

Drew Kemp jumped up to CL too soon. He did very well for Mildenhall last year but another season of just NL with a few guest bookings in the CL might have been a wiser move than going full time with the Tigers.

Total and utter tosh.

Compared to Kyle Bickley who had a full season last season in the league, Drew had 7 meetings, 

In those 7 meeting Drew scored more points than Kyle points did  from a full season.

H e started the season on a assessed average of 2 due to not done enough meetings to gain an average.

As soon as he gain an average he found himself in the main body of the team, yes he has found it tough, but the lad has stuck at it not given up.

I cannot think of another rider who has moved from a reserve berth to the main body of the team before they were 17 , I don't remember Bewley doing it and Bickley still has the luxury of riding at reserve at Glasgow after over a season in the Championship.

Oh and in the World Under 21 Team Cup he outscore Kyle Bickley, at track that Kyle calls home.

If Drew should not be in Championship then there is a whole host of riders should not be either.

     

[TurnTwo]

37 minutes ago, spin king said:

Total and utter tosh.

Compared to Kyle Bickley who had a full season last season in the league, Drew had 7 meetings, 

In those 7 meeting Drew scored more points than Kyle points did  from a full season.

H e started the season on a assessed average of 2 due to not done enough meetings to gain an average.

As soon as he gain an average he found himself in the main body of the team, yes he has found it tough, but the lad has stuck at it not given up.

I cannot think of another rider who has moved from a reserve berth to the main body of the team before they were 17 , I don't remember Bewley doing it and Bickley still has the luxury of riding at reserve at Glasgow after over a season in the Championship.

Oh and in the World Under 21 Team Cup he outscore Kyle Bickley, at track that Kyle calls home.

If Drew should not be in Championship then there is a whole host of riders should not be either.

     

Brennan was 17, he recorded a higher avg than drew before his injury 

[cityrebel]

19 hours ago, ruckerroo said:

Same old story from eastie away really, 2,3 and either 6 or 7 struggling.

Kennett has too many away tracks he doesn't like too.

Sounds like barring mishaps the defeat could have been greater.

Every other side struggling is strengthening ………….

Well done to sheffield

Bowtell certainly looked happier on a flat out track like Owlerton than the tight turns at Eastbourne. Very similar to his spell on the island last year.

[Charlieboy]

10 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

You obviously missed his crash? Perhaps you were not there.

Crashing like that shows the inexperience.Could have wiped out the rest of his season and also caused collateral damage.

Red mist?

Charles Wright who was awesome last week at Sheffield had a very similar crash at Peterborough last night wiping Dan Bewley out and also injuring himself .Charles has loads more experience so probably he should drop down to the national league ? Josh Bates wiped himself out once again only weeks after taking Broc out so I don't think you can say it's a lack of experience.The bikes and tracks are unpredictable and when you see Drew every week you would see he's one of the safest riders around for his age.Had he been reserve all season he would have had more confidence and a shed load more points.On Sunday he wasn't over riding but was caught out with the track as were Wright and Bates last night.

[TurnTwo]

Bates does tend to crash a lot..

[Tigerblade]

2 hours ago, Charlieboy said:

Charles Wright who was awesome last week at Sheffield had a very similar crash at Peterborough last night wiping Dan Bewley out and also injuring himself .Charles has loads more experience so probably he should drop down to the national league ? Josh Bates wiped himself out once again only weeks after taking Broc out so I don't think you can say it's a lack of experience.The bikes and tracks are unpredictable and when you see Drew every week you would see he's one of the safest riders around for his age.Had he been reserve all season he would have had more confidence and a shed load more points.On Sunday he wasn't over riding but was caught out with the track as were Wright and Bates last night.

Precisely what I was thinking when I was watching last night too!  Plenty of experienced riders have crashed on the slow down. 

[Steve55]

If it was the end of heat 6 'crash' which is being referred to, after racing to the line Drew was on the outside of Alfie and then he had to avoid Lawson who was slowing on the first bend after crossing the line. That appeared to unbalance him and rather than crashing he appeared to fall off before his bike 'crashed' into the air fence! 

Drew showed a little more commitment on Sunday than in his last couple of appearances at Owlerton and his gate and line in heat 8 was great, perhaps he should use his 'second' bike more  often at Sheffield.

More to the point what happened to Ben Morley on Sunday, he wouldn't have scored at all if Josh hadn't had the mechanical problem at the start of heat 8. Did he tire himself out at Stoke the night before?

[HGould]

32 minutes ago, Steve55 said:

If it was the end of heat 6 'crash' which is being referred to, after racing to the line Drew was on the outside of Alfie and then he had to avoid Lawson who was slowing on the first bend after crossing the line. That appeared to unbalance him and rather than crashing he appeared to fall off before his bike 'crashed' into the air fence! 

Drew showed a little more commitment on Sunday than in his last couple of appearances at Owlerton and his gate and line in heat 8 was great, perhaps he should use his 'second' bike more  often at Sheffield.

More to the point what happened to Ben Morley on Sunday, he wouldn't have scored at all if Josh hadn't had the mechanical problem at the start of heat 8. Did he tire himself out at Stoke the night before?

Ben Morley "Nil" (away in CL) should be a Jasper Carrot joke re-write!

Edited July 16, 2019 by HGould
added brackets to make clear

[Sings4Speedway]

1 hour ago, Steve55 said:

If it was the end of heat 6 'crash' which is being referred to, after racing to the line Drew was on the outside of Alfie and then he had to avoid Lawson who was slowing on the first bend after crossing the line. That appeared to unbalance him and rather than crashing he appeared to fall off before his bike 'crashed' into the air fence! 

Drew showed a little more commitment on Sunday than in his last couple of appearances at Owlerton and his gate and line in heat 8 was great, perhaps he should use his 'second' bike more  often at Sheffield.

More to the point what happened to Ben Morley on Sunday, he wouldn't have scored at all if Josh hadn't had the mechanical problem at the start of heat 8. Did he tire himself out at Stoke the night before?

All riders should "ride out" bends 1&2 after crossing the finish line rather than just shutting off (or shutting off ten yards before it) to prevent these kind of instances, same as restarts let the riders complete the first turn then bang the red lights on. So often do you see some riders shut off without thinking if any riders behind have done the same thing.  

[Fromafar]

3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

All riders should "ride out" bends 1&2 after crossing the finish line rather than just shutting off (or shutting off ten yards before it) to prevent these kind of instances, same as restarts let the riders complete the first turn then bang the red lights on. So often do you see some riders shut off without thinking if any riders behind have done the same thing.  

agree, you see a few “ near misses” after checkered flag.

[Sings4Speedway]

Just now, Fromafar said:

agree, you see a few “ near misses” after checkered flag.

exactly the last thing any rider wants after busting a gut for 4 laps is to suffer a bike up the #rs£ injury after the race is finished.

[ruckerroo]

1 hour ago, HGould said:

Ben Morley "Nil" (away in CL) should be a Jasper Carrot joke re-write!

its abs shocking tbh,but they don't seem to want to make a change

[Sings4Speedway]

9 minutes ago, ruckerroo said:

its abs shocking tbh,but they don't seem to want to make a change

I think in all honesty there was no way the promotion were heading to Sheffield expecting any level of result in much the same way that the Tigers will deem chances of a point at Arlington unlikely.  Its no secret that Ben is no expert on larger tracks and now the Championship seems to have more on the bigger side its more apparent than ever.

[HGould]

34 minutes ago, ruckerroo said:

its abs shocking tbh,but they don't seem to want to make a change

seems they just did - top prospect signed although I suspect with an eye on next season and brings them craftily below points limit - may be something else being lined up?

https://www.eastbourne-speedway.com/eagles-announce-team-change/