Brummies_Ste Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: Quite right about Danyon and my 'frustration/question' isn't aimed at him, however I don't think his signing has strengthened us..... I thought Nathan was doing a great job and shouldn't have been dropped imo. Danyon is/was a fans favourite and I'm sure he'll get dialled in after a few meetings....he's great to watch when on form Nathan is injured as well & replaced at Plymouth with Luke Chessell on a 28 day contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, GiveusaB said: Quite right about Danyon and my 'frustration/question' isn't aimed at him, however I don't think his signing has strengthened us..... I thought Nathan was doing a great job and shouldn't have been dropped imo. Danyon is/was a fans favourite and I'm sure he'll get dialled in after a few meetings....he's great to watch when on form Fair play GiveusaB my mistake, funny thing is i like Nathan as well he is exciting to watch and he was very unlucky.I remember him getting 9 against Eastbourne and he was battling really hard. A real tough ask that bridging the gap from NL to a fully fledged reserve at champs level us at Swindon have young Rowe as an asset and he is progressing nicely at Somerset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry The Goat Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Gresham said: The crowd was decent, as was the racing. The scoreline doesn't do Brum justice, they kept it close for the majority of the meeting. The track had new shale added this week. No blue line. Times were quick. Track was smooth after grading. Took a few riders to get used to it...Henry Atkins was lucky to walk away after lifting whilst leading...smacked the air fence straight on at speed. All in all a good meeting, well presented and fluently. Worth the admission alone to watch Ben Barker team ride excellently with Rowe for four laps...just like the old days...was a pleasure to watch. Good summary there. I agree. But a couple of things on the presentation side have room for improvement IMO: 1) Parade. We've started having just a helmet-free lap from the riders and an out-of-sight coin toss. The 'old' way had a much greater sense of occasion and was far better. 2) Excessive delay between heats (a real bugbear of mine). All the waiting around can get so tedious. A faster pace to a meeting is always more entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Quite right about Danyon and my 'frustration/question' isn't aimed at him, however I don't think his signing has strengthened us..... I thought Nathan was doing a great job and shouldn't have been dropped imo. Danyon is/was a fans favourite and I'm sure he'll get dialled in after a few meetings....he's great to watch when on form problem is Nathan goes on the deck every week, sadly, very injury prone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: problem is Nathan goes on the deck every week, sadly, very injury prone Unfortunately that's something that Danyon and Nathan have in common then. I guess it happens when you're a committed racer like they both are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Danyon has not had much racing this year with the cubs only having a handful of matches so far but having seen him in all of these matches he looks a far better rider more in control I am sure once he gets more continuous meetings every week he will be in the points for both his championship and NL clubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Harry The Goat said: Good summary there. I agree. But a couple of things on the presentation side have room for improvement IMO: 1) Parade. We've started having just a helmet-free lap from the riders and an out-of-sight coin toss. The 'old' way had a much greater sense of occasion and was far better. 2) Excessive delay between heats (a real bugbear of mine). All the waiting around can get so tedious. A faster pace to a meeting is always more entertaining. I always found the Parade a little embarrassing...purely as the crowd are spread so thinly around the track. I guess it depends on where you are watching from. Going round bends 1 and 2 on a truck staring at an empty sweet hut and ice cream van can't do much for moral. That space is so wasted...viewing bends 1 and 2 is nigh on impossible at Somerset. However the view down back straight and bend 3 is superb. I thought the pace of the meeting was good last night. I just wish the viewing was better at bends 1 and 2 and that you could look into the pits, as that is also part of the experience imo. Edited July 11, 2019 by Gresham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 1:43 PM, Ghosty said: Will Roooooooooooooooo Boy have the track how he likes it? How many knobs will be lost on the track the tonight? Score Rebels 55 Brums 35 i.e. that's Birmingham to 20 points over 15 heats! However I would loved to be proved wrong Lawrence Rogers............. I'm told Roo Boy liked the track. Think the track was Knob free & I predicted the final score!!!!!!!! Will have to buy myself a pint!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyGround Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 10:31 PM, CountyGround said: Nothing personal, but why were Birmingham permitted to sign Adam Ellis when it would have been known @ the time how many matches he would miss? What about the mysterious call-off coinciding a Wednesday when Ellis was unavailable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, CountyGround said: What about the mysterious call-off coinciding a Wednesday when Ellis was unavailable? That was because the previous home meeting was rained off. This meant Ellis had not ridden a match for the team so no facility was available. Hence the cock and bull story and the call off. They would have known Ellis wasn’t available for that particular meeting and were expecting to use a guest but the previous rain off scuppered their plans Garbage sport the way fans are taken for granted and so disrespected Edited July 12, 2019 by the hobbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Gresham said: I always found the Parade a little embarrassing...purely as the crowd are spread so thinly around the track. I guess it depends on where you are watching from. Going round bends 1 and 2 on a truck staring at an empty sweet hut and ice cream van can't do much for moral. That space is so wasted...viewing bends 1 and 2 is nigh on impossible at Somerset. However the view down back straight and bend 3 is superb. I thought the pace of the meeting was good last night. I just wish the viewing was better at bends 1 and 2 and that you could look into the pits, as that is also part of the experience imo. There used to be banking around the 1st and 2nd bends which was always reasonably well filled. However when the air fence came back the viewing was blocked slightly and this area was cleared to create a decent parking area for the OTA clubhouse for when it is used for private functions - which no doubt provides much needed funds to help top up and fund the speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 I have just seen the heat two of Somerset v Birmingham on you tube and Danyon does look a more controlled rider.He was unlucky in that heat he needs to stick at it and don't get into the zone of over riding the points will come.I also think Shanes should be at number six he should have the harder rides he has more exsperience at this level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: I have just seen the heat two of Somerset v Birmingham on you tube and Danyon does look a more controlled rider.He was unlucky in that heat he needs to stick at it and don't get into the zone of over riding the points will come.I also think Shanes should be at number six he should have the harder rides he has more exsperience at this level. I have to say its been a bug bear of mine for a long time, either switch one of the rides so the 6 races other reserves 3 times rather than twice and the 7 gets a reserve in every ride. Or force the higher averaged reserve to ride at 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: I have to say its been a bug bear of mine for a long time, either switch one of the rides so the 6 races other reserves 3 times rather than twice and the 7 gets a reserve in every ride. Or force the higher averaged reserve to ride at 6. It is so right what you are saying Sing's a number six away often if he fails in heat 2 that is it he often loses his fourth ride as well.Shanes should be number 6 at Birmingham it definitely is one of the biggest mistakes in the rulebook for the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Wouldn't a tactically astute manager use the reserve switch to get around any 6/7 stipulation? just a thought ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Wouldn't a tactically astute manager use the reserve switch to get around any 6/7 stipulation? just a thought ? Probably. Maybe fixed heats need to come into play for the reserves? However then there will be mass of 2 min exclusions so that would need tightening up on. What we have currently though is the better reserve taking the easier rides whilst the other struggles, drops confidence, gets 3 rides a night and falls away. Whilst the system is great for survival of the fittest do we have enough riders to be this ruthless? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 I think the biggest problem we have...isn't about the development of young riders? I think it's about creating/establishing a 'saleable' product to 'keep' and 'recruit', old/new fans respectively.... We need a Professional/Modern approach, to 'ignite' a dying product .....imo Easier said than done of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I think the biggest problem we have...isn't about the development of young riders? I think it's about creating/establishing a 'saleable' product to 'keep' and 'recruit', old/new fans respectively.... We need a Professional/Modern approach, to 'ignite' a dying product .....imo Easier said than done of course! I actually believe the product generally can still be top notch, it can still be an enjoyable night out the rulebook is really one of my pet hates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Might sound a bit of a stupid comment Sidney, but I think the 'speed' of the bikes may have taken some of the competitive edge off proceedings..... I also miss the 'proper' smell, since the intro of the oil catcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: Might sound a bit of a stupid comment Sidney, but I think the 'speed' of the bikes may have taken some of the competitive edge off proceedings..... I also miss the 'proper' smell, since the intro of the oil catcher? I actually think there is some truth in that. Riders are required to have the right engines for the right tracks now and those that don't will noticeably suffer. Because the way that bikes are also ridden any mistake during 4 laps and its virtually impossible to make ground due to the others opening such a large gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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