LisaColette Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, stevebrum said: The Poole track probably aggravated it too with the waves. Kings Lynn was more gripper so harder on the arms. He didn't pull out at Poole and was willing to guest again so looks like he was fine. KL fans have said on SM riders had to work their arms hard just to turn the bikes, so Ricky and TJ having shoulder injuries pretty much screwed really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, foreverblue said: It looked much deeper than usual and i think it caught us out but no excuses we were soundly beaten. To me it wasn't as deep last night,even the times were a fraction slower than normal although still quick.The track was quite dry after the first race even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, tellboy said: To me it wasn't as deep last night,even the times were a fraction slower than normal although still quick.The track was quite dry after the first race even. The clay content is far too high. Only track in the country prepared in such a way and to the detriment of the racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: He didn't pull out at Poole and was willing to guest again so looks like he was fine. KL fans have said on SM riders had to work their arms hard just to turn the bikes, so Ricky and TJ having shoulder injuries pretty much screwed really. Yes you do as i said earlier have to work you body harder on a grippier track.Maybe the Poole riders should visit the gym a few times before coming to the NA again I just don't know how Toft manages to get around he must be the smallest rider on show most weeks at the NA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: The clay content is far too high. Only track in the country prepared in such a way and to the detriment of the racing. You are missing my point totally.I agree it's not the best racing i'm not afraid to admit that.But it is by no means unsafe.Something you could not admit about the Poole track on occasions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, tellboy said: You are missing my point totally.I agree it's not the best racing i'm not afraid to admit that.But it is by no means unsafe.Something you could not admit about the Poole track on occasions. Poole track has been bad this season until the recent fix. No denying it. But it’s now ok and racing is flat out with riders going for it, not being cautious as was seen last night. This has nothing to do with the score. KL won fair and square. But the racing could have been far better had the track been prepared slicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, semion said: Poole were lucky the Cook still hasn’t got his A game sorted at Saddlebow. If he had, then it would have been a thrashing Then factor in a fit TJ and Nichol in for Rambo... Doesnt bare thinking about. Cook's getting his average down and is almost a shoe in for Belle Vue 2020. They've missed him greatly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: The clay content is far too high. Only track in the country prepared in such a way and to the detriment of the racing. King's Lynn has never been different from day dot, the track sits on a natural clay base. That cannot be changed. For me, King's Lynn would be better off preparing the track as they did when they were running the National League team. They'd probably benefit too from not ripping the start gate up and being consistent all the way around. How the track is rider's need 2 gearings per heat, one for getting out the grippy starts and another to maintain the higher speeds needed for the rest of the track. Gating has become far to important with the ripped up starts, rider's set up for that. Miss it and you can't get the speed to chase down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Poole track has been bad this season until the recent fix. No denying it. But it’s now ok and racing is flat out with riders going for it, not being cautious as was seen last night. This has nothing to do with the score. KL won fair and square. But the racing could have been far better had the track been prepared slicker. To be fair it only looked like Klindt being cautious by continually looking over his shoulder.I have never ever seen a rider do this as much as what he did last night.But i think he just wanted to be noticed,like after his first race win he just stood in the middle of the first bend watching the repeat on the big screen even with the riders on the track getting ready for the next race. I'm not counting Wells in this as he is pretty much the same every time he come here now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Holder also struggled with conditions, as did Josh until it started to slacken off near the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Holder also struggled with conditions, as did Josh until it started to slacken off near the end. Josh broke down in one race , maybe had bike issues until later on.Holder had bike issues in his first race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 hours ago, tellboy said: You are missing my point totally.I agree it's not the best racing i'm not afraid to admit that.But it is by no means unsafe.Something you could not admit about the Poole track on occasions. Last season tell boy Swindon's track came under real scrutiny, there was the Leicester postponement Vaculiv got injured.On that occasion the weather was the main factor but a few weeks later we had huge problems on bend four Nick Morris fell three weeks on the trot in the same place.Our management recognised something had to be done and that led to them changing the shape of the track before the season started.This cost them money and we actually had to postpone the first meeting of the season look the place is still not perfect now but the racing has improved so much the track is getting better by the week.Poole on the other hand need to bite the bullet and rectify the problem straight away the track has looked dangerous at times and Shovlar by saying what he has about it is in complete denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Last season tell boy Swindon's track came under real scrutiny, there was the Leicester postponement Vaculiv got injured.On that occasion the weather was the main factor but a few weeks later we had huge problems on bend four Nick Morris fell three weeks on the trot in the same place.Our management recognised something had to be done and that led to them changing the shape of the track before the season started.This cost them money and we actually had to postpone the first meeting of the season look the place is still not perfect now but the racing has improved so much the track is getting better by the week.Poole on the other hand need to bite the bullet and rectify the problem straight away the track has looked dangerous at times and Shovlar by saying what he has about it is in complete denial. Did you not read or follow the Poole threads or any Poole news? I find it quite incredible that you don’t know that the Poole track was completely sorted several weeks ago and and is now in good condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Did you not read or follow the Poole threads or any Poole news? I find it quite incredible that you don’t know that the Poole track was completely sorted several weeks ago and and is now in good condition. With or without the holes? a cheap option a patched up job maybe it shows that Matt's heart is not in it anymore and he is hanging on in there out of loyalty.In my opinion Swindon's racetrack is above Poole's now and week on week it is getting better and more consistent.Hand on heart two or three years ago i never would of said that, you just dig holes for yourself in total denial all you had to say was there were some issues to deal with.None of the fans on the forum want Poole to be a poor track we all know when it is at it's best just how good it can be. Edited July 10, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Poole’s poor track is just an easy stick to beat them with. When will MF make the signing/s to replace the likes of Worrall. I always thought riders were queuing up to ride for Matt, or have those days gone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 I think Tatum summed the track up perfectly when he said he cant remember another track using the clay based topping that gives so much grip . This track is unique in the grip it has. That alone is what saddlebow road has become. over the past few years it has got progressively worse. The racing on the other hand has all but gone. We go there now knowing we will only see processional races with most positional changes done by the start of the back straight. its little wonder the spectacle has all but died. Give me the old track any day... I understand the arguments of the starting procedure, but I don't openly agree with them. I preferred it when starting was a lottery and any of the 4 riders could make a getaway. it created more and better racing, But such is the importance of the start now, when riders of the calibre of Robert Lambert cant recover from a bad gate, it is essential the good riders make them starts. No doubt that's the reason the gate area is made more grippier than the rest. Yes it was a good win against the old enemy, some riders performed very well. But it was not a good meeting. If we couldn't beat the depleted side that Poole put out, then would have been pretty poor.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, g13webb said: That alone is what saddlebow road has become. over the past few years it has got progressively worse. The racing on the other hand has all but gone. We go there now knowing we will only see processional races with most positional changes done by the start of the back straight. its little wonder the spectacle has all but died. Give me the old track any day... And Buster gives NOT a whit. There were certainly less than 1.000 fans there on Monday, As an advert for the sport at Saddlebow Road, why would anyone new even bother to think about showing up for a future match? The income from speedway supporters is clearly of little importance compared to income from other sources and keeping the sponsors happy on TV. Let's have 50 one lap races per match as this is, as you say, Mr Webb, where any regular passing takes place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: King's Lynn has never been different from day dot, the track sits on a natural clay base. That cannot be changed. Not strictly true... I used to go to KL quite often over the last 30 years, to follow Coventry and as a neutral, and I live in Leicester, as it was generally always good value with the quality of racing... these days I vowed never to return after the Leicester match last season, but would struggle to muster the enthusiasm to attend if I lived a mile away. While the facilities have improved (the sand pit on the back straight!) the racing certainly hasn't. Anyway doesn't the track sit on a hard base? 5 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Our management recognised something had to be done and that led to them changing the shape of the track before the season started. Wasn't this more due to the "new stadium" 4 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: the Poole track was completely sorted several weeks ago and and is now in good condition. For how long though? 4 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Matt's heart is not in it anymore and he is hanging on in there out of loyalty. He's hanging on until he can off load it for a reasonable price 1 hour ago, waytogo28 said: There were certainly less than 1.000 fans there on Monday A lot less! Edited July 10, 2019 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, iainb said: Wasn't this more due to the "new stadium" For how long though? He's hanging on until he can off load it for a reasonable price A lot less! I used to go to KL quite often over the last 30 years, to follow Coventry and as a neutral, and I live in Leicester as it was generally always good value with the quality of racing... these days I vowed never to return after the Leicester match last season, but would struggle to muster the enthusiasm to attend if I lived a mile away. While the facilities have improved (the sand pit on the back straight!) the racing certainly hasn't You are right Iainb the main reason the Abbey track was changed was because of the new stadium( not convinced that will happen???) But the management knew the shape had to change the racing in the main for the last three years has been dire and bend four certainly has had its problems.Going back to your comment on Ford what has he got to sell?? ?? the promotional rights and the clubs rider assets that is all is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 That's the product the promoters dish up now. It's like having a bad meal at a restaurant, would you come back for more. The last three meetings i have attended were all run on slick and dusty tracks with little opportunity for any passing. These matches were all run in perfect Speedway weather, yet very little water was applied to the tracks. No thought is given to the paying punter. Getting covered in dust is all part of the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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