Leicester vs Eastbourne 05/07/19

[HGould]

6 minutes ago, gazzac said:

We are, unbeaten in the Ko cup at both levels for 5 years, hopefully make it to another final again, Redcar look to be favourites now, but haven't riden at Arlington this year so as usual we always have a chance in a 2 legged match. 

Have Eastbourne got Redcar in the semi final?

Great match last night, Leicester very unlucky but Eddie Kennett races all night v Nicholls and Harris were outstanding and he pulled it out at the end with a brilliant ride. Seems he is finally happy and settled back at Arlington where he began.

Eastbourne have to address that tail though as Bowtell; Morley and Wood are absolute passengers away and should be beating riders like Joe Lawlor.

I went to NLRC at Leicester last Autumn - Morley and Bowtell were 1-2 may be that sums them and Wood up - big fish in little pond. Wood OK at home but as bad as other 2 away.

Leicester I think need to replace either Worrall or Bates and Guests/RR won't work, Mountain was outstanding last night, best I've ever seen him ride.

 

[Skodaman]

But who do they use to replace either?

[gazzac]

31 minutes ago, Skodaman said:

But who do they use to replace either?

That is the problem, have a feeling they're set with this team this season, main aim being to keep the home crowd coming in, and still in with a chance of a 2 legged match as against Leicester, big home win, big away loss.

[gazzac]

1 hour ago, HGould said:

Have Eastbourne got Redcar in the semi final?

Great match last night, Leicester very unlucky but Eddie Kennett races all night v Nicholls and Harris were outstanding and he pulled it out at the end with a brilliant ride. Seems he is finally happy and settled back at Arlington where he began.

Eastbourne have to address that tail though as Bowtell; Morley and Wood are absolute passengers away and should be beating riders like Joe Lawlor.

I went to NLRC at Leicester last Autumn - Morley and Bowtell were 1-2 may be that sums them and Wood up - big fish in little pond. Wood OK at home but as bad as other 2 away.

Leicester I think need to replace either Worrall or Bates and Guests/RR won't work, Mountain was outstanding last night, best I've ever seen him ride.

 

I did mean Redcar probably favourite for the cup, not sure the semi final draw has been made yet. 

[hammer1969]

12 hours ago, ruckerroo said:

Extremely hard lines on leicester , injury ravaged at the first leg and unable to find a guest fail narrowly over 2 legs.

Eastbourne are dreadful on the road and tbh morley must be on borrowed time, awful yet again from him.

 

 

I think most of the Eastbourne fans will agree with you re Morley hope the promoters will now think seriously about replacing him.   Don't know if Tom Brennan will make it back from injury this season but he would be my choice, a real tryer and the fans love him.  That said what a meeting well worth the long journey up from London.

[hammer1969]

11 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Whatever the circumstances, Eastbourne are in the KO Cup semi-final and that is a big achievement.

Leicester, like Somerset, came down with assets. We went up with only Tom and Georgie. 

Eastbourne also started from scratch. Brand new promotion. No money, no assets - sweet nothing.

Can't be bad to be in the cup semis and the shield semis.

Think Eastbourne fans should be well pleased.

 

We are, what a meeting worth the long drive up the M1.

[IainB]

12 hours ago, 1 valve said:

Crowd grew with latecomers delayed on motorway but still on the low side. Change of race night may also have something to do with it. That said some terrific racing with a number of passes and repasses great performance from the Lions. Congrats to the Eagles for squeezing through. Not convinced Kennet did pip Bomber on the line. 

Yeah quite a few more came in the 10 minutes before the start and what a corker of a match it was (despite the sun delay), some great racing and any number of incidents that could have decided the match one way or the other... Dougy's 2 unforced errors, Kerr's fall, Mountain's fall, the ref's shocking double decision in heat 11, the manager's decision not to use Harris in heat 15...

[Cross Roads]

Credit were credit is due. I’ve taken my daughters to Leicester pretty much from when re opened and believe last night although not the result we wanted was one if not the best meetings for entertainment on the track we have seen. I like many over years have commented on the poor track shape/prep last night was so different standard of entertainment passing and close racing...All the best eagles, keep driving hard lions our time is coming.

[sidewinder]

2 hours ago, gazzac said:

I did mean Redcar probably favourite for the cup, not sure the semi final draw has been made yet. 

I am sorry, but how do you work that out. For Redcar to be probably favourites for the cup. Three trick tracks, as opposed to the fairest track in the league. Eastbourne clear favourites for me.

[Fortythirtyeight]

In order of ' Trick Tracks ' Eastbourne has to be the trickiest, then Edinburgh, very few visiting riders like Newcastle and Redcar appear to rate as the fairest track in the Championship ( See Steve Worrells comments in the S/Star a few weeks ago ).

On that basis Eastbourne are favourites with an Edinburgh ,Eastbourne final.

whats the odds?

 

[ruckerroo]

Redcar will mash all 3 over 2 legs

[gazzac]

Think by these last 3 opinions,  just shows what an open competition it is. I do think tracks are tricky rather than trick, and although not often,teams have come to Eastie, mastered our small tricky track and reaped the rewards. When Josh Pickering guested for Leicester earlier on he didn't have any problem having never riden there (I think), and certainly was a major factor in Leicesters league win. Think a lot of riders are already beaten mentally on arrival, come with the attitude of Pickering or Broc Nicoll and it's a different story. Have to say Eastie at the moment don't seem to have that attitude on their away tricky tracks for them, whoever does will probably win it. 

[Fortythirtyeight]

If you care to put your reading glasses on you will see ' Trick Track ' is in symonims meaning a term widely used, not necessarily that it is a trick track. 

All three of the tracks mentioned are not your average speedway track, different in size and shape to what most fans would regard as a regular shaped speedway track.

I obviously touched a nerve.

 

[Fromafar]

20 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

If you care to put your reading glasses on you will see ' Trick Track ' is in symonims meaning a term widely used, not necessarily that it is a trick track. 

All three of the tracks mentioned are not your average speedway track, different in size and shape to what most fans would regard as a regular shaped speedway track.

I obviously touched a nerve.

 

Perhaps you should have said “ Technical Tracks”

[SPEEDY69]

50 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Perhaps you should have said “ Technical Tracks”

Or maybe one where you need a bit more skill. 

[Fromafar]

Just now, SPEEDY69 said:

Or maybe one where you need a bit more skill. 

Agree, that’s how I see it too.

[Fortythirtyeight]

27 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Agree, that’s how I see it too.

Skill is required on a level playing field where all is equal, then skill rises to the top.

Not required so much on a ' technical ' track where home knowledge can replace skill.

[sidewinder]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Agree, that’s how I see it too.

A bit of familiarity and practice does not go amiss either

[HGould]

some of the latter races involving Kennett / Nicholls / Harris and Douglas were as good as you'll see, Kennett often slagged off for his away form but seems to be enjoying speedway again and Nicholls is like a vintage wine, seems to get better with age.

Despite the sun delay (justified I think if conditions not safe) cracking speedway and as a neutral I cheered at various times for both sides and Heat 15 was worth admission alone.

 

[Guest Loose Diamond]

On 7/6/2019 at 5:13 PM, SPEEDY69 said:

Or maybe one where you need a bit more skill. 

Yes. Less throttle bash, more use of riders throttle control. When Newcastle were at Eastbourne certain riders were not very good and struggled for some reason. Maybe absence of riding there I have no idea. Steve Worrall was ok. Bjerre was ok, but others struggled a bit. Jorgensen and Max Clegg especially. I definitely thought Clegg would have rode the track better because he must have been there riding in the NL.