Guest WTF1 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Shrimmy said: Josh Auty how many times has he ridden this track he’s supposed to be a no 1 or there abouts why can he not perform away from home after all these years..Somerset track pretty similar to ours wide open spaces and can’t perform..don’t give me slick Somerset track ewr has been slick all season and has performed...I expect more frm a so called number 1..what is the problem??? If Scunny are ever going to be play off challengers then I'm afraid for next season Auty will have to go, perhaps a different track will help his career as the EWR track seems to be the only one he can win races anymore, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, WTF1 said: If Scunny are ever going to be play off challengers then I'm afraid for next season Auty will have to go, perhaps a different track will help his career as the EWR track seems to be the only one he can win races anymore, didnt we win the payoffs with Josh in the team once? first base for any season,,,,,win your home meetings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, montie said: didnt we win the payoffs with Josh in the team once? first base for any season,,,,,win your home meetings Yes we did win the playoffs In 2012 with a far superior team and manager. but that's all history, this is now, Scunny have already lost a match at home and getting any result away relies on the number 1 scoring more than 5 points a match, you ain't gonna win nowt just winning home meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Seem to remember we won quite a few meetings away frm home or at least claimed a bonus point that year...but we did have a good reserve tho which helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyGround Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Looked to me that Scunny were missing a team manager, with R/R for Neilsen this should have been planed beforehand, but was used somewhat shambolic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Over to you montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 6 hours ago, WTF1 said: Yes we did win the playoffs In 2012 with a far superior team and manager. but that's all history, this is now, Scunny have already lost a match at home and getting any result away relies on the number 1 scoring more than 5 points a match, you ain't gonna win nowt just winning home meetings. Tbh I agree would not sure on points limit obvs but would love to see a Team of Allen, Douglas and Tero with Ayres+Stef+Palin+one other next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 12:36 AM, Shrimmy said: Josh Auty how many times has he ridden this track he’s supposed to be a no 1 or there abouts why can he not perform away from home after all these years..Somerset track pretty similar to ours wide open spaces and can’t perform..don’t give me slick Somerset track ewr has been slick all season and has performed...I expect more frm a so called number 1..what is the problem??? He’s just not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Shrimmy said: Over to you montie as i said before,first base is to win your home meetings,that is what ensures the income to keep a speedway club running,its basic ecconomics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, montie said: as i said before,first base is to win your home meetings,that is what ensures the income to keep a speedway club running,its basic ecconomics And a guarantee of not doing well away a short season ending in August with loss of revenue from further meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, WTF1 said: And a guarantee of not doing well away a short season ending in August with loss of revenue from further meetings Or stopping the losses getting worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Some folks have a short memory. I remember well when Josh rode for Sheffield and when riding against Scunny he beat the hell out of us. I remember conversations with Josh. me pleading with him to come back. Imagine all the points Josh has scored for us especially on the EWR track, the lad is capable of beating the best. Always been my favourite rider. Without Josh our team would have lost far more home meetings. He is exciting to watch. and he doesn't deserve the agro he's getting! I'm still Josh's No1 fan! Good luck tonight Josh and the rest of the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 You are talking about home meetings...what about away from owlerton and ewr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Shrimmy said: You are talking about home meetings...what about away from owlerton and ewr 2 hours ago, Shrimmy said: Whichever way you look at it, the fact that Josh is our top Av rider is why he's No1. Perhaps Josh is happier as a heat leader and could do without the pressure or perhaps we should get a higher av rider so Josh can be heat leader. Jake who I thought would score well at Somerset, but didn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 June's grandson here... That post was by June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Josh has done it before & it was only last year BUT he wasn't our no1 until the end of the season, mainly riding at no5 which is his best position. I did not think that Josh would replicate his form of last year to this & I fully expected Jake to have kicked on to be our no 1. We will have to wait for another month to see how the averages progress, but for now, Josh is our no1 & we should back him. 2018 SCUNTHORPE SCORPIONS Up to and including: Sunday, September 09, 2018 . ROLLING AVERAGES M R P B GSA Ave. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R Ex Josh Auty 20 100 209 15 8.36 8.96 37 39 20 2 1 1 Steve Worrall 20 92 188 10 8.17 8.61 44 21 14 11 1 1 Jason Garrity 20 95 180 13 7.58 8.13 35 27 21 6 4 2 Jake Allen 20 108 199 24 7.37 8.26 33 36 28 7 2 2 Stefan Nielsen 14 65 92 13 5.66 6.46 15 20 7 12 2 9 Gino Manzares 20 93 85 10 3.66 4.09 8 18 25 29 6 7 Danny Phillips 20 89 31 4 1.39 1.57 2 2 21 53 3 8 Rider 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 . 2018 AVERAGES M R P B GSA Ave. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R Ex Josh Auty 24 119 251 19 8.44 9.08 46 45 23 2 1 2 Jason Garrity 21 100 195 13 7.80 8.32 40 27 21 6 4 2 Steve Worrall 12 53 94 7 7.09 7.62 22 9 10 10 1 1 Jake Allen 24 126 223 27 7.08 7.94 37 40 32 11 4 2 Stefan Nielsen 12 54 77 11 5.70 6.52 12 17 7 10 1 7 Gino Manzares 24 112 107 13 3.82 4.29 10 22 33 34 6 7 Danny Phillips 24 102 35 4 1.37 1.53 3 2 22 60 6 9 Rider 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 . HOME M R P B GSA Ave. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R Ex Josh Auty 12 59 144 14 9.76 10.71 32 21 6 0 0 0 Jake Allen 12 63 128 16 8.13 9.14 25 20 13 4 1 0 Jason Garrity 12 58 115 6 7.93 8.34 25 13 14 4 2 0 Steve Worrall 5 18 33 1 7.33 7.56 9 2 2 4 0 1 Stefan Nielsen 7 34 55 9 6.47 7.53 9 12 4 6 1 2 Gino Manzares 11 55 62 9 4.51 5.16 7 11 19 12 3 3 Danny Phillips 12 48 11 1 0.92 1.00 0 2 7 30 5 4 Rider 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Rider 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 . AWAY M R P B GSA Ave. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R Ex Jason Garrity 9 42 80 7 7.62 8.29 15 14 7 2 2 2 Josh Auty 12 60 107 5 7.13 7.47 14 24 17 2 1 2 Steve Worrall 7 35 61 6 6.97 7.66 13 7 8 6 1 0 Jake Allen 12 63 95 11 6.03 6.73 12 20 19 7 3 2 Stefan Nielsen 5 20 22 2 4.40 4.80 3 5 3 4 0 5 Gino Manzares 13 57 45 4 3.16 3.44 3 11 14 22 3 4 Danny Phillips 12 54 24 3 1.78 2.00 3 0 15 30 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Do we have stats for josh away record as a heat leader or as a number 1...this is my point..owlerton and ewr he looks out of this world but with aspirations of play offs I think he needs to do more..am I being out of order here June ??x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Shrimmy said: Do we have stats for josh away record as a heat leader or as a number 1...this is my point..owlerton and ewr he looks out of this world but with aspirations of play offs I think he needs to do more..am I being out of order here June ??x He hasn't been very good at Owlerton for a long time... he's basically now a 2nd heat leader at Scunny and a second string at best everywhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 18 hours ago, WTF1 said: And a guarantee of not doing well away a short season ending in August with loss of revenue from further meetings Before thinking about away meetings, winning home matches is an absolute must for every speedway team in this country. 99% of fans don’t travel away to support their team so watching them win at home is all that matters to most. Winning away is an added bonus. For years teams have signed riders who are great at their home track but rubbish at most other tracks for that same reason. Josh Auty is one example of that nowadays. I can think of Simon Walker and Stephan Katt for Somerset in years gone by. Absolute world beaters at the OTA and knew every inch of the track but pretty useless away from home. Didn’t stop them becoming fan favourites though, purely because of their home exploits. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 5 hours ago, phillipsr said: He hasn't been very good at Owlerton for a long time... he's basically now a 2nd heat leader at Scunny and a second string at best everywhere else. if Josh is Second heat leader around Scunny id love to know who the 1st heat leader is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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