racers and royals Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Will Tai be fit to ride ?- i expect we will know more when he is a studio guest at the GP this Saturday. BT Sport are showing it on BT Sport 1 - what i can`t understand is that it seems BSI/IMG haven`t liaised with BT about what time Togliatti time equates to over here- BT are listing that their coverage starts at 17.45 when the meeting actually starts at 4pm UK time( Togliatti 3 hrs ahead of London with a 19.00 local time start). When they realise they might have to switch channels !!! Edited July 2, 2019 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Will Tai be fit to ride ?- i expect we will know more when he is a studio guest at the GP this Saturday. BT Sport are showing it on BT Sport 1 - what i can`t understand is that it seems BSI/IMG haven`t liaised with BT about what time Togliatti time equates to over here- BT are showing their coverage starts 17.45pm when the meeting actually starts at 4pm UK time( Togliatti 3 hrs ahead of London with a 19.00 local time start). When they realise they might have to switch channels !!! On the Sunday BT Sport 1 is showing St Johnstone vs Ross County live from 14.30 (15.00 kick-off). BT Sport 3 doesn't seem to be showing anything so assume the SON will switch to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Tai Woffinden out of the SON Finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 7 hours ago, racers and royals said: Will Tai be fit to ride ?- i expect we will know more when he is a studio guest at the GP this Saturday. Oh great, we have to put up with him again? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 GB v Germany for Wooden Spoon it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Is this a case of somebody, anybody, nobody etc should have told them? Can one of us get through? Can Philip Rising get through to the powers that be over the start time? If not when they switch on at 17.45 it will be over. Just in time for the result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Is this a case of somebody, anybody, nobody etc should have told them? Can one of us get through? Can Philip Rising get through to the powers that be over the start time? If not when they switch on at 17.45 it will be over. Just in time for the result! Philip is on the case- it will be sorted today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, waytogo28 said: Is this a case of somebody, anybody, nobody etc should have told them? Can one of us get through? Can Philip Rising get through to the powers that be over the start time? If not when they switch on at 17.45 it will be over. Just in time for the result! It's been advertised as live. Why the panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mark said: It's been advertised as live. Why the panic. There is no panic at all- but it would be nice that we don`t record BT sport 1 and then find that because they had the wrong time they have had to switch to another channel. You might just think that if they are advertising it as live, then they know what time the meeting is even if it`s in darkest Russia !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 7:47 AM, racers and royals said: Philip is on the case- it will be sorted today. BSI contacting BT but they are in Sweden this weekend so expect answer early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 7:47 AM, racers and royals said: Philip is on the case- it will be sorted today. Don't think I'm too worried about watching this meeting now as team GB will probably consist of Harris , Cook and Lambert injuries permitting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) Maybe time for a reminder of the rules for final 1 and 2 Final 1 & 2 The Scores from Final day 1 will be added to the scores from Final day 2. (42 Heats) to determine 4th to 7th place in the 2019 SoN. Final 2 will consist of 2 extra heats, a Final Qualifier heat and a Grand Final heat to determine the top 3 of the 2019 SoN. Heat 43 (Final Qualifier heat) will consist of the 2nd & 3rd placed teams from the 42 qualifying heats. The winning team of the Final Qualifier heat will join the top scoring team in heat 44 the Grand Final heat. The winning team of the Grand Final heat will become 2019 SoN champions. The losing team of the Grand Final heat will become 2019 SoN Runner up. The losing team of the Final Qualifier heat will become 2019 SoN Third Place. If the Final day 2 is interrupted after heat 21 and cannot continue the same day, the result at the conclusion of heat 21 added to final day 1 scores, will be deemed valid to determine the final results of the meeting. If the meeting is interrupted after heat 22 (Final qualifier heat) and cannot continue the same day, the result at the conclusion of heat 21 added to the final day 1 scores, will be deemed valid to determine the final results of the meeting. heat 22 (Final Qualifier heat) will only be considered to determine 2nd and 3rd place in the final results of the meeting regardless of points scored in the 21 heats. In respect of the 2 extra heats in the Final day 2, Final Qualifier heat 43 and Grand Final heat 44, the first choice of gate will go to the higher placed team in the final classification after the conclusion of heat 42. Final day 1 & 2 2a. In the event of equal points for two teams after the conclusion of the heat 42, the team that scored the most points when the two teams met will be considered the better placed team. 2b. If the tie cannot be decided by 2a. The team scoring the higher number of bonus points will be considered the better placed team. 2c. In the event of equal points for three or more teams, after the conclusion of the qualification heats, the team scoring the higher number of bonus points will be considered the better placed team. 2d. If there still remains a tie, the amount of first, second, third and fourth places in total taken by all riders will decide the better placed team. Zero for last placing is better than being disqualified for whatever reason). 2e. If all other solutions cannot resolve the tie, then the Team with the highest 2019 SoN Ranking will be deemed the better placed Team. 3. If the scores are shared between the two teams taking part in the Final day 2 heat 43 (Final qualifier heat) the highest ranked team after 42 heat intermediate classification will progress. If the Grand Final heat 44 ends in a 3-3 then there will be a Run off with one rider from each nation nominated by the team manager to race off for the SoN world championship. Edited July 6, 2019 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, racers and royals said: Maybe time for a reminder of the rules for final 1 and 2 Final 1 & 2 The Scores from Final day 1 will be added to the scores from Final day 2. (42 Heats) to determine 4th to 7th place in the 2019 SoN. Final 2 will consist of 2 extra heats, a Final Qualifier heat and a Grand Final heat to determine the top 3 of the 2019 SoN. Heat 43 (Final Qualifier heat) will consist of the 2nd & 3rd placed teams from the 42 qualifying heats. The winning team of the Final Qualifier heat will join the top scoring team in heat 44 the Grand Final heat. The winning team of the Grand Final heat will become 2019 SoN champions. The losing team of the Grand Final heat will become 2019 SoN Runner up. The losing team of the Final Qualifier heat will become 2019 SoN Third Place. If the Final day 2 is interrupted after heat 21 and cannot continue the same day, the result at the conclusion of heat 21 added to final day 1 scores, will be deemed valid to determine the final results of the meeting. If the meeting is interrupted after heat 22 (Final qualifier heat) and cannot continue the same day, the result at the conclusion of heat 21 added to the final day 1 scores, will be deemed valid to determine the final results of the meeting. heat 22 (Final Qualifier heat) will only be considered to determine 2nd and 3rd place in the final results of the meeting regardless of points scored in the 21 heats. In respect of the 2 extra heats in Race Off 1 & 2 (22 & 23) and the Final day 2, Final Qualifier heat 43 and Grand Final heat 44, the first choice of gate will go to the higher placed team in the final classification after the conclusion of heat 21 and 42. Final day 1 & 2 2a. In the event of equal points for two teams after the conclusion of the heat 42, the team that scored the most points when the two teams met will be considered the better placed team. 2b. If the tie cannot be decided by 2a. The team scoring the higher number of bonus points will be considered the better placed team. 2c. In the event of equal points for three or more teams, after the conclusion of the qualification heats, the team scoring the higher number of bonus points will be considered the better placed team. 2d. If there still remains a tie, the amount of first, second, third and fourth places in total taken by all riders will decide the better placed team. Zero for last placing is better than being disqualified for whatever reason). 2e. If all other solutions cannot resolve the tie, then the Team with the highest 2019 SoN Ranking will be deemed the better placed Team. 3. If the scores are shared between the two teams taking part in the Race Offs heats 22 & 23 Or Final day 2 heat 42 (Final qualifier heat) the highest ranked team after 21 or 42 heat intermediate classification will progress. If the Grand Final heat 44 ends in a 3-3 then there will be a Run off with one rider from each nation nominated by the team manager to race off for the SoN world championship. And breath lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 5 hours ago, teaboy279 said: And breath lol. At least if one reads it all and understands it, they will be one step ahead of Nige and Kelv 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) BT sport have now changed their schedule Saturday July 20th BT Sport 1 programme starts 3.45pm Sunday July 21st BT Sport 2 programme starts 3.45pm Edited July 8, 2019 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Day 1 draw and line-up Black Monster FIM Speedway of Nations Final Togliatti (RUS) – 20-21.07.2019 - STARTING LIST DAY 1 Germany team 1 Erik Riss 2 Kai Huckenbeck © 3 Lukas Fienhage Team Manager Herbert Rudolph Denmark team 2 1 Leon Madsen 2 Niels Kristian Iversen © 3 Frederik Jakobsen Team Manager Hans Nielsen Australia team 3 1 Jason Doyle © 2 Max Fricke 3 Jaimon Lidsey Team Manager Mark Lemon Poland team 4 Maciej Janowski 2 Bartosz Zmarzlik 3 Maksym Drabik Team Manager Marek Cieślak Russia team 5 1 Emil Sayfutdinov © 2 Artem Laguta 3 Gleb Chugunov Team Manager Igor Dmitriev Sweden team 6 1 Fredrik Lindgren © 2 Peter Ljung 3 Filip Hjelmland Team Manager Morgan Andersson team GB team 7 1 Craig Cook © 2 Chris Harris 3 Robert Lambert Team Manager Alun Rossiter Day 2 draw Germany team 1 1 Erik Riss 2 Kai Huckenbeck © 3 Lukas Fienhage Team Manager Herbert Rudolph Australia team 2 1 Jason Doyle © 2 Max Fricke 3 Jaimon Lidsey Team Manager Mark Lemon Sweden team 3 1 Fredrik Lindgren © 2 Peter Ljung 3 Filip Hjelmland Team Manager Morgan Andersson Poland team 4 1 Maciej Janowski 2 Bartosz Zmarzlik 3 Maksym Drabik Team Manager Marek Cieślak Russia team 5 1 Emil Sayfutdinov © 2 Artem Laguta 3 Gleb Chugunov Team Manager Igor Dmitriev team GB team 6 1 Craig Cook © 2 Chris Harris 3 Robert Lambert Team Manager Alun Rossiter Denmark team 7 1 Leon Madsen 2 Niels Kristian Iversen © 3 Frederik Jakobsen Team Manager Hans Nielsen Edited July 8, 2019 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Carter Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Still hopeful for this meeting in terms of racing even with TW out. Would have like to see Lindback in for Ljung though. Togliatti might be a leveller and give GB a better chance at sneaking 5th ahead of the Swedes. Cook rode well in the SGP challenge in 2017 on the same track (albeit flooded) Would love to see a full strength 4 man team event though. Pol v Den v Rus v Aus. That would be sensational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, James Carter said: Would love to see a full strength 4 man team event though. Pol v Den v Rus v Aus. That would be sensational. Poland could put 2 teams out and get silver & gold. Denmark would get Bronze. I loved the Speedway World Cup but I can't see it making a return while Poland are so far ahead of everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Carter Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 7:42 PM, Col said: Poland could put 2 teams out and get silver & gold. Denmark would get Bronze. I loved the Speedway World Cup but I can't see it making a return while Poland are so far ahead of everyone else. I think it would be a lot closer than you might think especially if held away from Poland. Consider that Russia have Emil, Laguta x 2 and Gleb. Denmark have LM, NP, NKI and Mikkelsen. They would run any polish team close. Perhaps lose by 5-10 points in Poland but outside Poland I reckon they could take it to the last couple of heats. Can you remember the year when Sweden had no right to win but did?! Anyway onwards and upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) It will always go to the last couple of heats. No matter what. It's the nature of the format. And (even with the adjustments this year) it will still be possible to bugger up the tactics in the final and throw it away right at the end. Edited July 10, 2019 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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