tellboy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Midland Red said: And your proof that it was premeditated is . . . . . ? Mystic Meg told him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Obviously Cook told Shovvy before the race what he was gonna do. Otherwise how would he have known it was premeditated? Unless you think Shovvy is just full of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriors Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, semion said: Do these ref’s do a track walk in advance of a meeting? If that hole was plain to see why didn’t the ref flag it up to the home promotion to allow some track work to be carried out prior to the meeting starting ? You can't just cover a hole and pretend it isn't there, if the hole is in the base it will always be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 So it’s the duty of the ref just to ignore it? How about doing what we do best in this Country and put a row of cones there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, tellboy said: Mystic Meg told him I didn't This thread is far more entertaining than many a meeting I've attended. Shovvy at his best Edited July 5, 2019 by Star Lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 hours ago, acef said: It's a video not a still. Lambert taking the piss putting a cone out to move the white line past where it was. Bang of order and why the best riders dont race here anymore because of absolute s##t tips like poole. Mark lemon was bang on with his comments. Would post if I knew how to Well Lambert 15 + 2 from 6 rides obviously wasn't that bad, didn't hear any of the riders complaining about track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: Why did he remove the video, maybe an old video i don't know. Cook took him out on the second bend and if Josh says bumps may have been a contributing factor then i accept that but Craig has apologised which he wouldn't do if he didn't think it was his fault. Both riders don't want to make it an issue or fall out over it. There is only one person making an issue out of it. Everybody else in the world is happy to take Josh G’s word and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, semion said: Obviously Cook told Shovvy before the race what he was gonna do. Otherwise how would he have known it was premeditated? Unless you think Shovvy is just full of it. Steve Shoveller, who amusingly spells his surname as Shovlar for a username, is totally full of what it is that he shovels Fortunately, it doesn't wind me up, I just find it all quite amusing Thank you, Shoveller! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Well Lambert 15 + 2 from 6 rides obviously wasn't that bad, didn't hear any of the riders complaining about track You’re basically saying that as long as riders don’t complain it’s ok to have holes in the track Is it really too much to ask that all tracks in the UK can be hole free? A minimum requirement for the NL surely let alone the Premiership. I’d be utterly embarrassed if the AFA regularly had hole(s) in the track. And I’d be slating the promotion rather than being in denial. Edited July 5, 2019 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Star Lady said: I didn't This thread is far more entertaining than many a meeting I've attended. Shovvy at his best Shoveller must be Stevie Wonder in disguise to miss seeing that hole. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, semion said: Do these ref’s do a track walk in advance of a meeting? If that hole was plain to see why didn’t the ref flag it up to the home promotion to allow some track work to be carried out prior to the meeting starting ? I think he did do a track walk, he did bring to light a problem with the air fence on turn 3, not far from the hole either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 To be fair we all know what a warped individual Shovlar is Gets his kicks out of being a troll on here , obviously doesnt get any satisfaction out of anything else in his life, so he plays childish games on a forum.......sad life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Nothing threw Cook off his line but a rage that told him to stuff Grajczonek to the fence. He knew what he was doing. Josh being diplomatic. Filthy move by Cook. We all saw it. He’s only ever a passenger on a speedway bike anyway, so any hope of him riding with skill is non existent. As for his extreme rudeness towards the paying public and referee, he should be heavily fined and banned for at least 4 matches. I would also hope that his Team GB bosses throw him out of the SON competition.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: You’re basically saying that as long as riders don’t complain it’s ok to have holes in the track Is it really too much to ask that all tracks in the UK can be hole free? A minimum requirement for the NL surely let alone the Premiership. I’d be utterly embarrassed if the AFA regularly had hole(s) in the track. And I’d be slating the promotion rather than being in denial. So how come this wasn't brought to the intension of the ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Gavan said: One person on here is saying it was dirty You have your head so far up Shovlars arse we can just about see your feet Your own rider has said it wasn’t dirty Yet you and your trolling mate Shovlar day otherwise You two are what give Poole a bad name on here Get ready for the play offs when the Witches stuff you There the sites unhinged and bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 The same Poole riders would have done the track walk, how come they didn’t say something about the hole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Officials have been ignoring the holes in the Poole track for years. The Poole riders probably just accept it as something they have to put up with. SS is no doubt frantically trying to come up with something to discredit the clear video evidence after his insistence that the track was smooth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: The same Poole riders would have done the track walk, how come they didn’t say something about the hole Because I should imagine one of the Lynn riders dug their heel in and dragged it back. Quite clear it had just been made. Not one single issue with the track last night. Flat out racing with plenty of passing. Seems to me there are people on here willing for the Poole track to be bad. Its not the case anymore. Sorry to disappoint! Five wins on the bounce. Confidence running high. Top of the league. On our way to retaining our title yet again. Happy days! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Strange all this hole business. I stand on bend 3 and didnt notice anything out of the ordinary before the start. In view of recent criticism of the track, I was looking for anything untoward. The track had been well watered so maybe the hole was hidden under the damp top surface? Certainly not evident from the outside. The Lynn riders were on the 1st turn while I was looking. Ive seen the video posted by Cook. Its obvious they found it. Yet,strangely, not one rider bucked or got out of shape while riding across it. Many times throughout the meeting,riders were riding a very tight inside line, so would have been ridden right through where they found it. Ask Holder and MPT in their terrific battle. Onto the Cook incident. I look directly down the back straight in a straight line towards the pits. For my money, Cook seemed very intent on pushing Josh out, as you would expect. However, he just didnt leave him any room to stay up. I didnt notice anything that would suggest he was thrown of course. We will just have to wait and see if ReRun post the incident. We will have take Josh's word about the incident. We all see things differently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobC said: Strange all this hole business. I stand on bend 3 and didnt notice anything out of the ordinary before the start. In view of recent criticism of the track, I was looking for anything untoward. The track had been well watered so maybe the hole was hidden under the damp top surface? Certainly not evident from the outside. The Lynn riders were on the 1st turn while I was looking. Ive seen the video posted by Cook. Its obvious they found it. Yet,strangely, not one rider bucked or got out of shape while riding across it. Many times throughout the meeting,riders were riding a very tight inside line, so would have been ridden right through where they found it. Ask Holder and MPT in their terrific battle. Onto the Cook incident. I look directly down the back straight in a straight line towards the pits. For my money, Cook seemed very intent on pushing Josh out, as you would expect. However, he just didnt leave him any room to stay up. I didnt notice anything that would suggest he was thrown of course. We will just have to wait and see if ReRun post the incident. We will have take Josh's word about the incident. We all see things differently. Good honest post Bob. Looks to me that one of the riders dug their heel in and dragged it back on a soft patch due to watering. No issues whatsoever during the meeting. Lots of fake news on here about the Poole track by people hundreds of miles away from last nights meeting. They should have come along to witness the champs in action. Pretty sure they would have been entertained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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