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8 hours ago, mickthemuppet said:

I suggest you go back in Speedway history when one promoter had a finger in the pie of 13  Speedway clubs and without him there would probably be no league Speedway racing today. History is littered with promoters  running more than one club

 

 

Mr Parker was not doing his multi-club ownership role because of any love for the sport, it was a licence to print money in those days.

Now Mr Chapman does it because of his slavish belief that TV "is a good thing" ( but cannot persuade to his fellow promoters to fill up the stadiums with a decent admission price when the cameras are there ). I think that is driven by Buster's arrangement with his sponsors, that TV exposure comes with any deal he has with them. Is that brave or foolish in the economic framework of UK speedway today? BV was still half empty last night.

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What a match... not one for the purist but a 4 big points for a depleted Witches side. First up well done to Danny Ayres whos 4 points were vital.

Have to feel sorry for the Pussycats... you have a track that is superb but on last night's showing it may as well be half the width and races over only 1 lap. Any rider trying the outside line lost 5 bike lengths. Easy for updates though... FTG.... FTG. 

Genuinely feel sorry for them if that is what's served up every week. Who would have thought the Witches would have 7 sets of gating gloves. 

Totally wrong decesion by the ref to exclude King when it was clear to most that Andersen knocked him off. 

And then what came in the re run was shocking.  Out of no where Andersen T-Boned Heeps and both went down hard. I've seen reports that the Witches fans were cheering... that's well off the mark.  There were shouts of total disbelief as to what Andersen had done and concern for the stricken riders. You could tell Andersen was knocked out and here's hoping he's ok. Amazingly Heeps got up and won the rerun.  Not that Proctor wanted to beat him as it would have meant only 5 points down and no chance to use a tac sub.  

Heat 11 saw Tungate "bundle his way past" Lawson in a crazy move .. especially after what had happened the heat before.  Lawson let him know his feelings after the race and a bit of handbags insued. Wonder if Tungate got fined for riding over the centre green? 

Heat 12 saw the red hot Tungate used as a tac sub but could do nothing to catch King. 

Seemed as though Panthers then threw in the towel when the pointless Starke was put in heat 13. Least he got his Audi....

Great result.... poor racing... what has gone wrong with Peterborough and Kings Lynn tracks? 

Up the Witches :t:

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3 hours ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

What a match... not one for the purist but a 4 big points for a depleted Witches side. First up well done to Danny Ayres whos 4 points were vital.

Have to feel sorry for the Pussycats... you have a track that is superb but on last night's showing it may as well be half the width and races over only 1 lap. Any rider trying the outside line lost 5 bike lengths. Easy for updates though... FTG.... FTG.

Yet whoever did the updates reports passing in about 10 of the 15 heats, which backs up what I saw with my own eyes.

Not sure where you're watching your speedway but it must be amazing, and certainly not Ipswich, where I've never seen any racing like last night in 35 years of being a speedway fan.

There have been gate and go meetings at Boro this year, although those meetings have still been better than I've witnessed anywhere other than Belle Vue having attended about 25 meetings so far this year, but this wasn't one of them.

Heat 11 was a blinder, yet you criticise Tungate for being overly robust in passing Lawson.  Not sure whether you want racing or not?

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3 hours ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

What a match... not one for the purist but a 4 big points for a depleted Witches side. First up well done to Danny Ayres whos 4 points were vital.

Have to feel sorry for the Pussycats... you have a track that is superb but on last night's showing it may as well be half the width and races over only 1 lap. Any rider trying the outside line lost 5 bike lengths. Easy for updates though... FTG.... FTG. 

Genuinely feel sorry for them if that is what's served up every week. Who would have thought the Witches would have 7 sets of gating gloves. 

Totally wrong decesion by the ref to exclude King when it was clear to most that Andersen knocked him off. 

And then what came in the re run was shocking.  Out of no where Andersen T-Boned Heeps and both went down hard. I've seen reports that the Witches fans were cheering... that's well off the mark.  There were shouts of total disbelief as to what Andersen had done and concern for the stricken riders. You could tell Andersen was knocked out and here's hoping he's ok. Amazingly Heeps got up and won the rerun.  Not that Proctor wanted to beat him as it would have meant only 5 points down and no chance to use a tac sub.  

Heat 11 saw Tungate "bundle his way past" Lawson in a crazy move .. especially after what had happened the heat before.  Lawson let him know his feelings after the race and a bit of handbags insued. Wonder if Tungate got fined for riding over the centre green? 

Heat 12 saw the red hot Tungate used as a tac sub but could do nothing to catch King. 

Seemed as though Panthers then threw in the towel when the pointless Starke was put in heat 13. Least he got his Audi....

Great result.... poor racing... what has gone wrong with Peterborough and Kings Lynn tracks? 

Up the Witches :t:

All down to the type of material that's put on muck.

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4 hours ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said:

What a match... not one for the purist but a 4 big points for a depleted Witches side. First up well done to Danny Ayres whos 4 points were vital.

Have to feel sorry for the Pussycats... you have a track that is superb but on last night's showing it may as well be half the width and races over only 1 lap. Any rider trying the outside line lost 5 bike lengths. Easy for updates though... FTG.... FTG. 

Genuinely feel sorry for them if that is what's served up every week. Who would have thought the Witches would have 7 sets of gating gloves. 

Totally wrong decesion by the ref to exclude King when it was clear to most that Andersen knocked him off. 

And then what came in the re run was shocking.  Out of no where Andersen T-Boned Heeps and both went down hard. I've seen reports that the Witches fans were cheering... that's well off the mark.  There were shouts of total disbelief as to what Andersen had done and concern for the stricken riders. You could tell Andersen was knocked out and here's hoping he's ok. Amazingly Heeps got up and won the rerun.  Not that Proctor wanted to beat him as it would have meant only 5 points down and no chance to use a tac sub.  

Heat 11 saw Tungate "bundle his way past" Lawson in a crazy move .. especially after what had happened the heat before.  Lawson let him know his feelings after the race and a bit of handbags insued. Wonder if Tungate got fined for riding over the centre green? 

Heat 12 saw the red hot Tungate used as a tac sub but could do nothing to catch King. 

Seemed as though Panthers then threw in the towel when the pointless Starke was put in heat 13. Least he got his Audi....

Great result.... poor racing... what has gone wrong with Peterborough and Kings Lynn tracks? 

Up the Witches :t:

When I went to the Poole meeting the racing was fantastic best I have seen in years so maybe there were reasons why it wasn't great last night, just be grateful your team seemed to adapt to it better.

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49 minutes ago, CB252 said:

Heat 11 was a blinder, yet you criticise Tungate for being overly robust in passing Lawson.  Not sure whether you want racing or not?

Rohan didnt race to make that pass - it was a case of Lawson use his sense of self preservation or potentially join us in the crowd.....

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5 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

What was he doing then if he wasn't racing?

Shutting the door when the other rider was still on the threshold - thats not racing in my book

Lawson couldve continued to 'race' but may well well have followed Hans to hospital had he chosen to....

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I was there last night and wow, what a stunning witches performance it was. It seems like every meeting we look like we are 'on one' and determined to win every time. Peterborough just didn't not have an answer to it.

On another note how on earth do they get away with a fiver for a burger and 4.70 for a lager? 

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15 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Shutting the door when the other rider was still on the threshold - thats not racing in my book

Lawson couldve continued to 'race' but may well well have followed Hans to hospital had he chosen to....

Well without seeing the incident difficult to make a judgement .

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The horrific Hans Andersen crash has to some extent deflected the flack that Panthers and their Management would have faced.  Ipswich far the better side thoroughly  outclassed Panthers from the start. Result never in doubt

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That's twice the witches have won there this season,,, and both times its more or less been a gaters paradise,,,, and you  wouldn't exactly look at the witches team and say they are a team of good gaters,,but what they did seem to have is far better track craft going into and out of the first bend..  

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Well without seeing the incident difficult to make a judgement .

Well it happened just a few metres in front of me

You heard the initial contact and Rohan just kept on coming......

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