acef Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Had Teri rode, if Covatti had rode.......We would wipe the floor with you should we meet in the playoffs. Probably winning at home by a fair margin and winning at NSS as well. The Poole team this year is superior to Belle Vue’s, especially at 3 and 4 and reserve. BV might have a better top two but that’s about it. Ipswich will win there next week. Steve you beat us by 2 points at your place last week. And by 2 points on monday whilst we were minus a number 7 and the points that would have bought. I dont think there is much difference between the 2 teams, its tight. As for ipswich, they will suffer in the big races next week but I agree they will beat us if we have to use Kyle again. If tero is fit we will beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, acef said: Steve you beat us by 2 points at your place last week. And by 2 points on monday whilst we were minus a number 7 and the points that would have bought. I dont think there is much difference between the 2 teams, its tight. As for ipswich, they will suffer in the big races next week but I agree they will beat us if we have to use Kyle again. If tero is fit we will beat them. To be fair, the final score line on Monday flattered BV - they were definitely the second best on the night and by some margin #justsaying Edited July 4, 2019 by Steve0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, geoff58 said: rospigarana have sacked robert lambert !! no real surprise maybe as the ones I saw him in he wasn't up to much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Not as way off as you might think. Bewley Finished a great 2018 early with a 7.19 ave. Had serious injuries. His 2019 league meeting ave is 6.27... Considering he is young and probably his 1st big injury I don't think he has dropped much. Maybe less than Rob Lambert has dropped.... Worrall averaged 6.32 in 2018. Suffered serious injury. His 2019 league meeting ave is 6.11. Less than TJ has dropped... Lidsey, assessed 4.00 ? I can't remember.In 2019 he has averaged 4.21 in league meetings. If the 4.00 is right he's done ok. Worrall was much better in 2017 before he broke his leg and missed a lot of 2018. Has achieved at a lower level since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Steve0 said: To be fair, the final score line on Monday flattered BV - they were definitely the second best on the night and by some margin #justsaying But the margin was 2 points. Are you suggesting poole downed tools and didnt want 4 points, instead 3? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 1:09 PM, Steve0 said: To be fair, the final score line on Monday flattered BV - they were definitely the second best on the night and by some margin #justsaying Belle Vue were 2nd best coming out of turn 2 lap1 in most of the heats, Poole have riders who love the NSS, give them an advantage and they will win most heats. That is exactly what happened. Poole were the better team on the night and deserved their win, Belle Vue were 2nd best on the night and did well to stop Poole getting 4 pts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, hyderd said: Belle Vue were 2nd best coming out of turn 2 lap1 in most of the heats, Poole have riders who love the NSS, give them an advantage and they will win most heats. That is exactly what happened. Poole were the better team on the night and deserved their win, Belle Vue were 2nd best on the night and did well to stop Poole getting 4 pts. Exactly what ive been saying but some Poole fans cant quite grasp it. Ipswich have riders that are poor at the NSS but go well at Poole........for that reason i would much rather face Poole in the play offs Poole have riders that are poor at Foxhall but go well at the NSS.....for that reason Poole would choose Belle Vue rather than Ipswich Poole can go to Belle Vue and win...........Ipswich will go to Belle Vue and lose.................doesnt make Poole the better side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Exactly what ive been saying but some Poole fans cant quite grasp it. Ipswich have riders that are poor at the NSS but go well at Poole........for that reason i would much rather face Poole in the play offs Poole have riders that are poor at Foxhall but go well at the NSS.....for that reason Poole would choose Belle Vue rather than Ipswich Poole can go to Belle Vue and win...........Ipswich will go to Belle Vue and lose.................doesnt make Poole the better side Not sure about that you can't say what happened in previous meetings can necessarily be the same when they meet again especially in the play offs and we have to replace Worrall, Covatti usually is good at Ipswich but was poor last time for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Exactly what ive been saying but some Poole fans cant quite grasp it. Ipswich have riders that are poor at the NSS but go well at Poole........for that reason i would much rather face Poole in the play offs Poole have riders that are poor at Foxhall but go well at the NSS.....for that reason Poole would choose Belle Vue rather than Ipswich Poole can go to Belle Vue and win...........Ipswich will go to Belle Vue and lose.................doesnt make Poole the better side I agree that Poole have a selection of riders who go very well at the NSS but I still believe we would do them over 2 legs with a full team. I think they are overrated, mostly by their own fan base. Let's be honest, they only just beat a 6 man team. 3 races where bv had as good as 1 rider. That's a huge advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 38 minutes ago, acef said: I agree that Poole have a selection of riders who go very well at the NSS but I still believe we would do them over 2 legs with a full team. I think they are overrated, mostly by their own fan base. Let's be honest, they only just beat a 6 man team. 3 races where bv had as good as 1 rider. That's a huge advantage. I would back Poole to beat Belle Vue over two legs with a full team.Your issues weren't confined to just Bickley, If Worrall and Bewley could get back to form then you would have a team to fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I would back Poole to beat Belle Vue over two legs with a full team.Your issues weren't confined to just Bickley, If Worrall and Bewley could get back to form then you would have a team to fear. Equally, had tero been riding, hed have scored the 1 point to at least make a draw. 4 nights earlier at your place you only beat us by 2. We were well in that meeting. It would be close. Very close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Don’t see it. I think BV will struggle to qualify for the playoffs to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Don’t see it. I think BV will struggle to qualify for the playoffs to be honest. Yes i have said that before i don't see how they can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, acef said: Equally, had tero been riding, hed have scored the 1 point to at least make a draw. 4 nights earlier at your place you only beat us by 2. We were well in that meeting. It would be close. Very close Bewley and Worrall need to improve to have a chance. At home we had two riders withdrawn injured. Edited July 6, 2019 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Yes i have said that before i don't see how they can do it. Because there is a way to go in the season and all 3 of wolves kl and peterboro are garbage. If dan and steve pick up we will be make it easy but that is a big if 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Bewley and Worrall need to improve to have a chance. At home we had two riders withdrawn injured. Yes but before that we were in the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, acef said: Yes but before that we were in the meeting. Yes because actually that night Bewley rode pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Don’t see it. I think BV will struggle to qualify for the playoffs to be honest. So please enlighten us what two teams will catch them then Peterborough have 2 matches in hand but are 7 points back and have ridden more at home then away Swindon are 10 back with 4 matches in hand Kings Lynn are 11 back with 2 matches in hand and have home fixtures in hand Wolves just dont look good enough Belle Vue will still win the vast majority of their home matches and that will be enough to get them in the play offs................as an Ipswich fan i wouldnt want to face them at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, acef said: I agree that Poole have a selection of riders who go very well at the NSS but I still believe we would do them over 2 legs with a full team. I think they are overrated, mostly by their own fan base. Let's be honest, they only just beat a 6 man team. 3 races where bv had as good as 1 rider. That's a huge advantage. Yes you go underestimating Poole, we all know how that generally works out for everybody 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Gavan said: So please enlighten us what two teams will catch them then Peterborough have 2 matches in hand but are 7 points back and have ridden more at home then away Swindon are 10 back with 4 matches in hand Kings Lynn are 11 back with 2 matches in hand and have home fixtures in hand Wolves just dont look good enough Belle Vue will still win the vast majority of their home matches and that will be enough to get them in the play offs................as an Ipswich fan i wouldnt want to face them at all Yes strange isn't it Wolves would of been fancied before the season started. Belle Vue don't look good enough either, i know you smashed them the other night but Peterborough could do it, great racetrack but without Hans going to be tough. Swindon could do it if they get a decent reserve because their top 5 is the best top 5 in the league. Kings Lynn have a soft centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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