Edinburgh v Glasgow 28/6/19 CL @19-30

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, stewmac said:

You'd imagine so. When I arrived at 6.55, I'd only been in the stadium a moment when someone told me Howarth was out the meeting due to failing a drugs test. What annoyed me was that many folk knew the situation by 7.30, so it was ridiculous to then hear it announced he had had to rush away due to a family emergency. Why not simply say what had happened - even if it was pending further investigation?

There is a worrying trend from Promotions just to tell the public a load of Bullsh#t these days, when really they just have to tell the truth it does not help the credibility of such Promotions.There has been no explanation regarding Howarth yet apart from the” family emergency “ yet,so  we will have to wait and see.

Bullsh#t and Mushrooms fans favourite food these days

[tyretrax]

Could they not announce it as withdrawn on medical grounds?

[foamfence]

2 minutes ago, tyretrax said:

Could they not announce it as withdrawn on medical grounds?

How about "medication grounds"?

[montie]

1 hour ago, mac101 said:

If the test comes  up positive for any banned substances your out and will probably now have to give a blood sample if you google drug test kits there very accurate these days can pinpoint what’s in your urine within 10 mins and tell you even what type of drug you have taken  ALL OPIATES (including Heroin and Morphine)                

• COCAINE (including Crack and Coke)
• METHAMPHETAMINES (including Ice, E's)
• SPEED (including Whizz and all Amphetamines)
• ALL BENZOS (including Valium and Rohypnol)
• METHADONE (including Red Rock and Dolly)
• ALL MARIJUANA (including Cannabis and Skunk)

to be fair to Howarth,theres alot of folk that need a fix before they go to Armadale.....

[Dornier]

Statement on Tigers website

[snapper]

Statement released by Wolves

CLUB STATEMENT | 

WOLVERHAMPTON and Kyle Howarth should know by Tuesday the outcome of a sample taken at a drugs test prior to his planned guest appearance for Edinburgh on Friday.

It is our understanding that an issue arose in relation to medication that Kyle has been taking whilst recovering from recent injuries and illness.

As a consequence, the failed drugs test ruled him out of the meeting.

We understand the medication Kyle has been using is Night Nurse, which is readily available over the counter for general use.

However, Wolverhampton Speedway do take the matter seriously, and the sample is now at a laboratory for further analysis, the result of which should be known on Tuesday.

We are confident this analysis will show traces of Night Nurse only and no other issues, and that Kyle will be cleared to resume racing.

Promoter Chris Van Straaten said: “Whilst we take the matter very seriously, anybody who has seen Kyle ride recently will know whatever he has been taking cannot have been performance-enhancing!”

[Endeavour]

1 hour ago, snapper said:

Statement released by Wolves

CLUB STATEMENT | 

WOLVERHAMPTON and Kyle Howarth should know by Tuesday the outcome of a sample taken at a drugs test prior to his planned guest appearance for Edinburgh on Friday.

It is our understanding that an issue arose in relation to medication that Kyle has been taking whilst recovering from recent injuries and illness.

As a consequence, the failed drugs test ruled him out of the meeting.

We understand the medication Kyle has been using is Night Nurse, which is readily available over the counter for general use.

However, Wolverhampton Speedway do take the matter seriously, and the sample is now at a laboratory for further analysis, the result of which should be known on Tuesday.

We are confident this analysis will show traces of Night Nurse only and no other issues, and that Kyle will be cleared to resume racing.

Promoter Chris Van Straaten said: “Whilst we take the matter very seriously, anybody who has seen Kyle ride recently will know whatever he has been taking cannot have been performance-enhancing!”

Quite a glib comment at the end by the promoter. Short term this has probably cost Edinburgh a home victory. Don’t see a Monarchs away victory coming soon but if it did this home defeat could come back to haunt them at the end of the season. Can’t remember a season when everything has seen to have gone wrong for us. Injuries, off form riders and Drug Gate. ☹️

[Pinny]

5 hours ago, The H Man said:

Absolutely R&R,  there is no instant drug test result as you rightly say and i’ve Witnessed riders that have mysteriously ricked their back pre-meeting and even fallen down changing room steps to avoid being tested.   

 

 

 

 

How you Gowan, mr h man?  

[Mr Blobby]

3 hours ago, Endeavour said:

Quite a glib comment at the end by the promoter. Short term this has probably cost Edinburgh a home victory. Don’t see a Monarchs away victory coming soon but if it did this home defeat could come back to haunt them at the end of the season. Can’t remember a season when everything has seen to have gone wrong for us. Injuries, off form riders and Drug Gate. ☹️

Probably did cost us in the end along with the dodgy starts that weren’t getting pulled back.

[alang]

If the test shows Night Nurse and nothing illegal as Wolves'statement hopes then should last night's meeting not be rerun with original programmed teams and last night's result declared void.!!!!!

[Fromafar]

7 minutes ago, alang said:

If the test shows Night Nurse and nothing illegal as Wolves'statement hopes then should last night's meeting not be rerun with original programmed teams and last night's result declared void.!!!!!

Think there is a bit more than being told at present.Imo

[cyclone]

IIRC there are non prescription over-the-counter medicines that do contain ingredients deemed as performance enhancing substances.

However according to this link re Night  Nurse:-

http://www.theathlete.org/banned_drugs/night-nurse.html

"This Product does not contain any banned substances according to the IOC, therefore this product can be taken in accordance with the Manufacturers guidelines." 

So it would appear  that can be ruled out.

Edited June 29, 2019 by cyclone

[Gazc]

52 minutes ago, alang said:

If the test shows Night Nurse and nothing illegal as Wolves'statement hopes then should last night's meeting not be rerun with original programmed teams and last night's result declared void.!!!!!

Why not Glasgow's fault, so i would think not.

[Paulco]

1 hour ago, Mr Blobby said:

Probably did cost us in the end along with the dodgy starts that weren’t getting pulled back.

Anything else to add from the Monarchs book of after match excuses ? 

Ref tempted by bottles of buckfast maybe , temperature of the track too high , Tigers management putting nitro.in their riders fuel , wrong time of the month to race a derby match maybe . 

[Weeyin]

Lots of bitter Monarch fans about, yeah Glasgow got a bit of luck but every team would take that . Glasgow have no control over the referee, there has been many times that we had decisions go against us in the past. Some of the excuses from monarchs fans are unbelievable,  get over it , move on and support your team, win or lose. Monarchs have had some great runs in the past , winning more trophies than Glasgow. We were rubbishe for years , it is nice to at least being near the top of the table instead of bottom. Monarchs will improve and I hope they don't lose any more home matches , except for against Glasgow.

[jenga]

58 minutes ago, cyclone said:

IIRC there are non prescription over-the-counter medicines that do contain ingredients deemed as performance enhancing substances.

However according to this link re Night  Nurse:-

http://www.theathlete.org/banned_drugs/night-nurse.html

"This Product does not contain any banned substances according to the IOC, therefore this product can be taken in accordance with the Manufacturers guidelines." 

So it would appear  that can be ruled out.

that product is approved by the international olympic committee (IOC) for athletes , but maybe a banned substance in the eyes of the FIM, or another motorcycle group inc the ACU .

it could come under the beta blocker medication that calms the nervous system down and AIDS the performance of the person taking it ! therefore gaining an advantage from a substance . I AM SURE IT WILL SAY ON THE INFO SHEET .. do not operate machinery while taking this product . it will cause drowsiness !

we must  all wait and see . Danny Bird riding yet after his ban for taking a substance ?

Edited June 29, 2019 by jenga

[Mr Blobby]

16 minutes ago, Paulco said:

Anything else to add from the Monarchs book of after match excuses ? 

Ref tempted by bottles of buckfast maybe , temperature of the track too high , Tigers management putting nitro.in their riders fuel , wrong time of the month to race a derby match maybe . 

Not the first time this season either. Seen a lot of poor refereeing at the starts this season. Not just against us. But that’s twice now this season I’ve witnessed a Glasgow rider hit the tapes and the race not been pulled back.

[Fenway Bleachers]

No bitterness, best team won. We managed 5 heat wins only and no points from reserve after heat 2.

Yes the RR was not helpful and young Coles should use fingers to count, but sometimes you make your own luck. We could not hold on to a six point lead with 5 races left, and couldn’t get a heat winner in any of them, so no, points went where they deserved to.

Cookie still too good at this level when confident and happy. A Monarchs legend after all and without equal at the dale, though Sam might have an opinion on that. 

Astute reserve utilisation also very smart by Tiggers manager, contributed to the success. 

It looks a long season from here, don’t see any points away so cup is best chance of  success and those Newcastle matches are now huge. 

Tiggers, rebels and Leicester look the cream this season. 

[SpeedyOne]

1 hour ago, jenga said:

that product is approved by the international olympic committee (IOC) for athletes , but maybe a banned substance in the eyes of the FIM, or another motorcycle group inc the ACU .

it could come under the beta blocker medication that calms the nervous system down and AIDS the performance of the person taking it ! therefore gaining an advantage from a substance . I AM SURE IT WILL SAY ON THE INFO SHEET .. do not operate machinery while taking this product . it will cause drowsiness !

we must  all wait and see . Danny Bird riding yet after his ban for taking a substance ?

What on earth are you going on about?   No one said anything about Beta Blockers.    Howarth has said he took Night Nurse.

Before doing a drugs screening test at the track the rider is asked if they have taken any medication.  Since he's said he took NIght Nurse, (and we have no evidence of anything else) we can only assume that NIght Nurse is the reason the screening test threw up what they call a "non-negative", which needs to be tested.

With a "non-negative" in the screening test, the rider is disqualified from the meeting, and the sample has to undergo a drugs test at a laboratory.   Of course if any rider's drugs test comes back positive for a banned substance they deserve to be banned for a long time.   But if what Howarth says is true, then the drugs test will identify Night Nurse, and he'll be free to continue riding because Night Nurse doesn't contain anything on the WADA banned list.  (There are many websites you can google yourself where you can easily see the IOC's list of what medications are on the WADA banned list).

 

 

 

[jenga]

21 minutes ago, CottonOn said:

What on earth are you going on about?   No one said anything about Beta Blockers.    Howarth has said he took Night Nurse.

Before doing a drugs screening test at the track the rider is asked if they have taken any medication.  Since he's said he took NIght Nurse, (and we have no evidence of anything else) we can only assume that NIght Nurse is the reason the screening test threw up what they call a "non-negative", which needs to be tested.

With a "non-negative" in the screening test, the rider is disqualified from the meeting, and the sample has to undergo a drugs test at a laboratory.   Of course if any rider's drugs test comes back positive for a banned substance they deserve to be banned for a long time.   But if what Howarth says is true, then the drugs test will identify Night Nurse, and he'll be free to continue riding because Night Nurse doesn't contain anything on the WADA banned list.  (There are many websites you can google yourself where you can easily see the IOC's list of what medications are on the WADA banned list).

 

 

 

read it properly .. Nugget  try to think for yourself or go ask a friend , if you have one !

so its okay to take night nurse AND operate machinery ..