Edinburgh v Glasgow 28/6/19 CL @19-30

[2ndbendbeerhut]

3 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Surely if the Authorities are at a track testing, then Alcohol test  results are known at track- pass or fail. Drug testing is different and samples are taken under controlled conditions and sent away to the labs for the results.

You would think there is a set procedure... but it's British speedway so anything can go on.. 

[stewmac]

20 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Surely if the Authorities are at a track testing, then Alcohol test  results are known at track- pass or fail. Drug testing is different and samples are taken under controlled conditions and sent away to the labs for the results.

You'd imagine so. When I arrived at 6.55, I'd only been in the stadium a moment when someone told me Howarth was out the meeting due to failing a drugs test. What annoyed me was that many folk knew the situation by 7.30, so it was ridiculous to then hear it announced he had had to rush away due to a family emergency. Why not simply say what had happened - even if it was pending further investigation?

[racers and royals]

Just now, stewmac said:

You'd imagine so. When I arrived at 6.55, I'd only been in the stadium a moment when someone told me Howarth was out the meeting due to failing a drugs test. What annoyed me was that many folk knew the situation by 7.30, so it was ridiculous to then hear it announced he had had to rush away due to a family emergency. Why not simply say what had happened - even if it was pending further investigation?

You can`t fail a drugs test on the night- you can refuse to take one- or pull out of a meeting before they pick what riders will be tested.(done before)

[stewmac]

2 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

You can`t fail a drugs test on the night- you can refuse to take one- or pull out of a meeting before they pick what riders will be tested.(done before)

Thanks for clarifying. What I heard though suggested he'd been tested in some way and failed. Would that be a urine test, or what?

[stewmac]

The announcement of a new signing by Wolves this morning suggests either:

a) They had word of what was going on or

b) They have had the ability to react unbelievably quickly...

[SharpenRake]

For the benefit of Mr Blobby, as I predicted Coles scored more than Ruddick, Victor more than Sedgmen. As for Kyle Howarth he helped us win 

Well done to the lads for proving me wrong 

[Endeavour]

4 minutes ago, stewmac said:

You'd imagine so. When I arrived at 6.55, I'd only been in the stadium a moment when someone told me Howarth was out the meeting due to failing a drugs test. What annoyed me was that many folk knew the situation by 7.30, so it was ridiculous to then hear it announced he had had to rush away due to a family emergency. Why not simply say what had happened - even if it was pending further investigation?

Probable legal reasons they couldn’t announce. The  “Drug test story” was flying round stadium  quicker than Lawson on his push bike. Hard to think of what they could actually announce what was credible. Howarth let down promotion, fans and team. Cost us the match along with lamentable secret weapon reserve.

On another topic. Really enjoying Liam and John presenting. Still miss Scott Wilson but they are going from strength to strength every week.

 

[Endeavour]

Not really any excuse for professional sportsmen failing drug test. WADA publish info freely available to all sports. In the past included things to watch out for in day to day medicines. 

[DSC67]

15 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

You can`t fail a drugs test on the night- you can refuse to take one- or pull out of a meeting before they pick what riders will be tested.(done before)

If a rider refuses to take a test isn't that regarded the same as a fail ? 

[racers and royals]

3 minutes ago, DSC67 said:

If a rider refuses to take a test isn't that regarded the same as a fail ? 

Yes

[screm]

15 minutes ago, Endeavour said:

Not really any excuse for professional sportsmen failing drug test. WADA publish info freely available to all sports. In the past included things to watch out for in day to day medicines. 

Absolutely, there is only one person responsible for what they take and in this case its Howarth, if he has done anything wrong, but lets face it he pulled out the meeting last night and now Wolverhampton are making a team change, that could be Howarth.

[mac101]

They now have a machine that tests your urine and gives the  results straight away some company’s now use these  quite regularly for staff checks 

[Paulco]

Had to laugh after the meeting at a conversation with those two notable worthys,  Dick Barrie and Kenny McKinna . I said young Kyle was our man of the match and while Dick agreed , Kenny said " yes he can gate , but he looks slow which is a worry " . 

Kenny son , the lad just scored 10 paid 11 on an away track , and his crucial third place in heat 14 effectively won us the meeting . He can look as slow as he likes if he keeps doing that .

[The H Man]

14 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

You can`t fail a drugs test on the night- you can refuse to take one- or pull out of a meeting before they pick what riders will be tested.(done before)

Absolutely R&R,  there is no instant drug test result as you rightly say and i’ve Witnessed riders that have mysteriously ricked their back pre-meeting and even fallen down changing room steps to avoid being tested.   

 

 

 

 

[The H Man]

4 minutes ago, mac101 said:

They now have a machine that tests your urine and gives the  results straight away some company’s now use these  quite regularly for staff checks 

I’m not sure that sort of test is legally binding - i of course maybe wrong - but I think that is more of an indicative test which would still need further analysis.   

[racers and royals]

2 minutes ago, The H Man said:

Absolutely R&R,  there is no instant drug test result as you rightly say and i’ve Witnessed riders that have mysteriously ricked their back pre-meeting and even fallen down changing room steps to avoid being tested.   

 

 

 

 

They have probably tightened things up as regards "signing in" to a meeting these days to stop any chance of that happening now !!!!- Oh the memories 

[Mr Blobby]

15 minutes ago, Paulco said:

Had to laugh after the meeting at a conversation with those two notable worthys,  Dick Barrie and Kenny McKinna . I said young Kyle was our man of the match and while Dick agreed , Kenny said " yes he can gate , but he looks slow which is a worry " . 

Kenny son , the lad just scored 10 paid 11 on an away track , and his crucial third place in heat 14 effectively won us the meeting . He can look as slow as he likes if he keeps doing that .

He does have a point though don’t think I’ve seen someone so slow score so many points, but fair play to the lad just got the bike in the right places and made it very awkward to get past.

[mac101]

If the test comes  up positive for any banned substances your out and will probably now have to give a blood sample if you google drug test kits there very accurate these days can pinpoint what’s in your urine within 10 mins and tell you even what type of drug you have taken  ALL OPIATES (including Heroin and Morphine)                

• COCAINE (including Crack and Coke)
• METHAMPHETAMINES (including Ice, E's)
• SPEED (including Whizz and all Amphetamines)
• ALL BENZOS (including Valium and Rohypnol)
• METHADONE (including Red Rock and Dolly)
• ALL MARIJUANA (including Cannabis and Skunk)

[Fromafar]

46 minutes ago, Paulco said:

Had to laugh after the meeting at a conversation with those two notable worthys,  Dick Barrie and Kenny McKinna . I said young Kyle was our man of the match and while Dick agreed , Kenny said " yes he can gate , but he looks slow which is a worry " . 

Kenny son , the lad just scored 10 paid 11 on an away track , and his crucial third place in heat 14 effectively won us the meeting . He can look as slow as he likes if he keeps doing that .

I would give Howarth Tigers man of the match 

[bigcatdiary]

1 hour ago, stewmac said:

You'd imagine so. When I arrived at 6.55, I'd only been in the stadium a moment when someone told me Howarth was out the meeting due to failing a drugs test. What annoyed me was that many folk knew the situation by 7.30, so it was ridiculous to then hear it announced he had had to rush away due to a family emergency. Why not simply say what had happened - even if it was pending further investigation?

Exactly