acef Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 9:50 AM, Skidder1 said: Break the rules and get punished by the authorities. No problem with that. Next.......!? Expand It's good that you endorse the rulings. My argument is poole have often got away with bending or breaking them, yet as soon BV pulled a fast one they were done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 9:45 AM, scottyfan said: Just to use this match as a reference as you said the last decade or so Poole have called meetings off to suit them... Poole v Ipswich September 10th 2009:- Poole 35 - Ipswich 37 .... Meeting abandoned after 12 heats due to 10pm curfew. Expand Thanks for that, it’s goes someway to prove my point as I said only ninety odd percent of the time would meetings be called with the home team in front. I actually didn’t expect it would be ten years ago to find an example but well done, keep them coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:03 AM, acef said: It's good that you endorse the rulings. My argument is poole have often got away with bending or breaking them, yet as soon BV pulled a fast one they were done Expand I'm quite prepared to accept that where there may be a loophole in the rules - which would be open for any club to exploit - then Poole may well have been better or quicker than others in so doing?! But if there are loopholes in the first place then that is down to the authorities to correct them. If Poole had continually 'broken' any rules then they would have been taken to task by the Management Committee and formally punished by the SCB. So lets see the evidence rather than just an opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:07 AM, ouch said: Thanks for that, it’s goes someway to prove my point as I said only ninety odd percent of the time would meetings be called with the home team in front. I actually didn’t expect it would be ten years ago to find an example but well done, keep them coming. Expand The reason it’s nearly 10 years ago is because that is the last time, until Thursday of this week, that I recall Poole calling off a meeting due to a curfew. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:19 AM, scottyfan said: The reason it’s nearly 10 years ago is because that is the last time, until Thursday of this week, that I recall Poole calling off a meeting due to a curfew. Expand Yes, good point. They would normal keep going as many Poole meetings have played on after 10.15pm. You’re right that its extremely rare for Poole not to go the full distance. The one ten years ago had nothing riding on it as win or lose Poole we’re out of the play offs, so there was no need to carry on. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Perhaps if BV fans are feeling they have been hard done by with the curfew, they will hunt out Mark Lemon on Twitter or at the stadium on Monday and ask him directly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:32 AM, Steve Shovlar said: Perhaps if BV fans are feeling they have been hard done by with the curfew, they will hunt out Mark Lemon on Twitter or at the stadium on Monday and ask him directly. Expand Steve you knew as soon as there was talk of a curfew, Belle Vue fans would accuse us of manipulating it even though they had 4 heats to get in front after the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) On 6/29/2019 at 10:32 AM, Steve Shovlar said: Perhaps if BV fans are feeling they have been hard done by with the curfew, they will hunt out Mark Lemon on Twitter or at the stadium on Monday and ask him directly. Expand From reading the various posts/interviews, I get the impression that both teams were happy with the result. Poole got their 3 points, and with BV top of the League anyway they were more than happy with their 1 point for being less than 6 points behind. Having had a miserable time recently away from home but still being on top, I think Lemon was happy to bag the 1 point once that point had been reached in the meeting. Especially following their last meeting at Poole. (When I say happy - I mean the result not the meeting as for sure Poole not happy to lose 2 riders to nasty injuries). Edited June 29, 2019 by STEVEHOLS54 additional comment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 11:31 AM, STEVEHOLS54 said: From reading the various posts/interviews, I get the impression that both teams were happy with the result. Poole got their 3 points, and with BV top of the League anyway they were more than happy with their 1 point for being less than 6 points behind. Having had a miserable time recently away from home but still being on top, I think Lemon was happy to bag the 1 point once that point had been reached in the meeting. Especially following their last meeting at Poole. (When I say happy - I mean the result not the meeting as for sure Poole not happy to lose 2 riders to nasty injuries). Expand I've got no issues with the Curfew it couldn't be helped. But I think with 3 races to go the Aces would of got at least a draw. Heats 13 and 15 with Max and Scotty would of seen us pull at least the 2 points back and a probable 3-3 in heat 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 11:37 AM, SUPERACE said: I've got no issues with the Curfew it couldn't be helped. But I think with 3 races to go the Aces would of got at least a draw. Heats 13 and 15 with Max and Scotty would of seen us pull at least the 2 points back and a probable 3-3 in heat 14. Expand Can't really say that anything could happen, could have gone either way tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:56 AM, foreverblue said: Steve you knew as soon as there was talk of a curfew, Belle Vue fans would accuse us of manipulating it even though they had 4 heats to get in front after the delay. Expand 'Some' Belle Vue fans ....Thank you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) On 6/29/2019 at 11:55 AM, lisa-colette said: Can't really say that anything could happen, could have gone either way tbh. Expand Of course but I think the Aces odds of scoring more in those last 3 heats were higher than Poole's. If the meeting that was a draw at the NSS was postponed at heat 12 Poole wouldn't of picked up a point. Edited June 29, 2019 by SUPERACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 probably mark lemon looked at it and readily agreed to the 10-15 cut off point,realising no way would the last few heats be run but that paul starke would have to take 3 consecutive rides and that would edge the advantage to the aces,a view i would have to agree with however paul got the all important point to win the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 It was just a shame we lost heat 13 due to the curfew set by the referee and the team manager's Anyway all done and dusted now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 12:09 PM, WestGorton1884 said: 'Some' Belle Vue fans ....Thank you Expand Sorry yes some Belle Vue fans! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:09 AM, Skidder1 said: I'm quite prepared to accept that where there may be a loophole in the rules - which would be open for any club to exploit - then Poole may well have been better or quicker than others in so doing?! But if there are loopholes in the first place then that is down to the authorities to correct them. If Poole had continually 'broken' any rules then they would have been taken to task by the Management Committee and formally punished by the SCB. So lets see the evidence rather than just an opinion. Expand Perhaps the morally right thing to do would be to point out how the loophole could be exploited to fellow promoters without actually exploiting it and press for it to be closed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:56 AM, foreverblue said: Steve you knew as soon as there was talk of a curfew, Belle Vue fans would accuse us of manipulating it even though they had 4 heats to get in front after the delay. Expand The 10.15 was agreed between Poole promoter and referee. Team managers were then informed, if Poole reserve didn't have 3 on the trot ,maybe another heat would have been run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 12:13 PM, SUPERACE said: Of course but I think the Aces odds of scoring more in those last 3 heats were higher than Poole's. If the meeting that was a draw at the NSS was postponed at heat 12 Poole wouldn't of picked up a point. Expand I think Josh having already beaten Max earlier in the meeting could have won the last two heats and Brady or Jack or both easily capable of beating Nicholls in 13 or 15 or both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 1:16 PM, sugarray said: The 10.15 was agreed between Poole promoter and referee. Team managers were then informed, if Poole reserve didn't have 3 on the trot ,maybe another heat would have been run. Expand Maybe maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:56 AM, foreverblue said: Steve you knew as soon as there was talk of a curfew, Belle Vue fans would accuse us of manipulating it even though they had 4 heats to get in front after the delay. Expand ...well Poole do have a lot of previous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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