Halifaxtiger Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Then you are misinformed. That's why there is a leagal challenge trying to get The BSPA's money back ( which was never authorised by the BSPA in the first place but done covertly by the top table members) and why there is so much penny pinching going on by the BSPA ( withdrawing funding for youth championship, selling Team GB , etc) While I know nothing about legal challenges, top table members or penny pinching, I heard that there was a lump sum payment. A big one. Edited July 26, 2019 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: While I know nothing about legal challenges, top table members or penny pinching, I heard that there was a lump sum payment. A big one. Correct. A 6 figure up front and then per number bought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted July 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Anybody know if the engines are short or long stroke? Not so much for cost but long strokes are less susceptible to set up and deal with difficult conditions better. To me that would make a far bigger difference than how many valves they have although two is a better option for standardisation I think. Standardise carbs and clutches too (BZ and Jawa maybe with jawa plates) and you really will have cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, Vince said: Anybody know if the engines are short or long stroke? Not so much for cost but long strokes are less susceptible to set up and deal with difficult conditions better. To me that would make a far bigger difference than how many valves they have although two is a better option for standardisation I think. Standardise carbs and clutches too (BZ and Jawa maybe with jawa plates) and you really will have cut costs. Whilst i agree with the long stoke sentiments i think the carb & clutch standardisation is a little out. Im not sure BZ carbs have been made for the past 10 years which would be one issue. However negating the excessive power through the rear wheel via the clutch could mean that there is less dependence on the better brands and that harder plates could work just as well and last longer adding to cost reductions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted July 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) Fair comment, BZ type carbs then would be less expensive to produce and easier to set up although I guess everybody has got to grips with the Blixt by now. As for clutch plates I don't know the current prices but Haruschi's were 4 times the price of a standard Jawa fibre. Baskets and hubs from other manufacturers were double the price. However I do remember a certain Mr Woffinden doing just fine at Rye on Jawa plates in a std Jawa clutch! I just think that if you are going to go for standardisation you might as well go the whole way and level the field completely. One other thing I would say is that Josh Auty's comment about it being technique rather than engine power is true, however get a rider of the same standard beating you all the time because he is on better equipment will bite anybody. Something else I've just thought of is could the use of rev limiters also help such a system. Firstly they could help with reliability and secondly they could be used at service time to ensure the output from each engine is the same as long as they are tamper proof. Edited July 29, 2019 by Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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