Fortythirtyeight Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 So the lad gets dropped ( the reasons don't matter for this point ) and now has his ' guest ' bookings for a Championship club cancelled as he's not in a declared National League team any longer. So now he has no team and no bookings. Any wonder this sport can't be taken seriously? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 You wouldn't describe it as ludicrous if he had turned down the offer of place in a team though, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Whilst I agreed with Mildenhalls decision to drop David Walllinger, denying the lad the chance of rides to put himself back in the shop window is ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, ancient mariner said: You wouldn't describe it as ludicrous if he had turned down the offer of place in a team though, would you? Yes, the rule is a joke. If he's turned down Plymouth (?) then I would totally understand as he lives in the north and works for a living but that is not the argument, it's the ruling itself that is wrong. If he was allowed to take up his booking he just may get offered a team place but he can't because he hasn't got a place already. Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 As a good friend of mine said a long time ago...... whatever you do , do not take Speedway seriously... just enjoy the racing if you are lucky enough to watch at a good track. By the way he started watching Exeter in the 50s... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Amusing that some refer to Wallinger as a 'lad.' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, foamfence said: Amusing that some refer to Wallinger as a 'lad.' Agreed not exactly the future of the sport. Them's the rules and that's the way it is however shock horror there is one moaner so in the interests of fairness im just off to start threads about Tom Wooley, Dan Greenwood, Mark Baseby, Paul Hurry, Taylor Hampshire, Luke Bowen, Tony Atkin, Rob Suttleworth, Ben Hopwood & Adam Roynon who are all in the same boat and need somebody to moan on their behalfs also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Agreed not exactly the future of the sport. Them's the rules and that's the way it is however shock horror there is one moaner so in the interests of fairness im just off to start threads about Tom Woolley, Dan Greenwood, Mark Baseby, Paul Hurry, Taylor Hampshire, Luke Bowen, Tony Atkin, Rob Suttleworth, Ben Hopwood & Adam Roynon who are all in the same boat and need somebody to moan on their behalfs also. Not sure your list of riders in the same boat as David is very accurate. Mark Baseby has retired, Taylor Hampshire is taking time out and I am sure Adam Roynan isn't fit yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Great Central said: Not sure your list of riders in the same boat as David is very accurate. Mark Baseby has retired, Taylor Hampshire is taking time out and I am sure Adam Roynan isn't fit yet. Fair point although Baseby "retired" due to lack of team place/high average and Hampshire "took a break/got the hump" for the same reason. Fact is Wally couldn't hold down his team place for a full season yet again and has to pay the price just like any other rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons50 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Wallinger agreed to sign for Plymouth then went back on that agreement as far as I know. Can't say I "like" the way things get conducted these days in speedway. So many changes in rules and riders etc. Don't forget Henry Atkins was going to sign for Plymouth as well before he was injured. Think he had put pen to paper but was null and void because of his injury. We could do with a new no 3 but not sure I'd trust Mr Wallinger to come even if he said he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 "As far as I know "....so you don't know the truth and are just gossiping. My point is the rule is stupid. Replace Wallinger's name with Macauley Leek, dropped because his average is too high and now in the same position as Wallinger, not allowed to guest in any team as he's not in a team......ridiculous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Not to mention the likes of Jamie Couzins, William O Keefe, who have a 2.something average and cant get a team place, cant take guest bookings, and cant ride as a 2.0 unattatched rider.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: Not to mention the likes of Jamie Couzins, William O Keefe, who have a 2.something average and cant get a team place, cant take guest bookings, and cant ride as a 2.0 unattatched rider.... Agreed. Riders in that situation who its a little harder on as they were eligible last year until the rule change although in all fairness Jamie isn't keen on travel and William has ridden for almost every team in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: "As far as I know "....so you don't know the truth and are just gossiping. My point is the rule is stupid. Replace Wallinger's name with Macauley Leek, dropped because his average is too high and now in the same position as Wallinger, not allowed to guest in any team as he's not in a team......ridiculous! Replace as far as i know with as quoted by the Plymouth promotion. Anyway as it stands i do think its wrong that riders without team places cannot guest within the NL. I would even go as far to say that these riders could even get a reduction to promote the use of unattached riders but the rules are as they are (for this season at least). There have been plenty of better riders who have faded into the background due to the classic numbers game and i suspect that will continue its just the nature of the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 This is where this league falls down taking itself too seriously. Rolling averages at this level doesn’t help either it’s more about current form so a last 6 matches count back perhaps should be determining team strength with no limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, GWC said: This is where this league falls down taking itself too seriously. Rolling averages at this level doesn’t help either it’s more about current form so a last 6 matches count back perhaps should be determining team strength with no limit. Actually, I think this is where this league is finally getting itself sorted and returning to the development league it was always meant to be. There shouldn’t really be places for 35 year olds when there are younger riders available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 No offense to the lad but if he was any good he wouldn’t have been dropped in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, bloom89 said: No offense to the lad but if he was any good he wouldn’t have been dropped in the first place. What a pathetic comment not everybody can become world class, he has been released by Mildenhall so if he gets booking's he should be able to honour them.People have been saying for years this sport has pathetic rules in place , more attention should be going towards promoting the sport and making sure people are getting value for money and being entertained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: What a pathetic comment not everybody can become world class, he has been released by Mildenhall so if he gets booking's he should be able to honour them.People have been saying for years this sport has pathetic rules in place , more attention should be going towards promoting the sport and making sure people are getting value for money and being entertained. Chris Holder isn’t attached anywhere. Should he be allowed to guest wherever suits him? Or any rider like Iversen, Tai, Pedersen etc Or does it, in fact, make sense that you need to be in a 1-7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Chris Holder isn’t attached anywhere. Should he be allowed to guest wherever suits him? Or any rider like Iversen, Tai, Pedersen etc Or does it, in fact, make sense that you need to be in a 1-7? God man this is the NL young uns like Kemp, and a endless amount of young talent are getting opportunities there has to be a mix though. For example Wallinger gets released at Mildenhall gets a guest booking at Scunthorpe why stop him ? madness this sport is obsessed with rules Chris Holder and David Wallinger is not a great example to put your point across. Edited June 19, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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