bellevueace Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 No surprise really Wolves away was a one off freak result, normal service resumed tonight, with Wells and Berge we will continue to put in poor performances away from the NSS, Steve is inconsistent and Dan is still struggling, Robins were vulnerable with no Musielak and that should have given us the opportunity to at least take a point, so well done to Swindon who took us to the cleaners whilst under strength, get Tobi back fit and the Robins look a good strong outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, acef said: I have acknowledged you were the better team and have congratulated Swindon twice now. I am not upset in any way. Please, don’t misinterpret what it is I am saying. I have simply shared the opinion of someone who felt the track was bumpy and dangerous to race side by side. It really is as simple as that. Ok. I’ll just end with this. Troy Batchelor who is never shy in coming forward has praised the track after the meeting. Said if you give him the tools to do his job he will preform like that. Said he’s enjoying turning up & not worrying about the track & bike set ups as the track has improved & will only get better. Now some may say “he’s a home rider, he’s bound to say that”....this is Batch, we will know he doesn’t stand for crap & we’ve seen this at Swindon so to say riding side by side was “dangerous” has massively over egged it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: Ok. I’ll just end with this. Troy Batchelor who is never shy in coming forward has praised the track after the meeting. Said if you give him the tools to do his job he will preform like that. Said he’s enjoying turning up & not worrying about the track & bike set ups as the track has improved & will only get better. Now some may say “he’s a home rider, he’s bound to say that”....this is Batch, we will know he doesn’t stand for crap & we’ve seen this at Swindon so to say riding side by side was “dangerous” has massively over egged it. That’s good to hear. Troy is certainly very vocal of poor tracks and tends to throw the toys out when he is dissatisfied with a surface, often reflected in poor points returns. He is a fair weather rider like that. That he is so powerful at home atm suggests the track is looking good, which is great for Swindon’s future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, acef said: That’s good to hear. Troy is certainly very vocal of poor tracks and tends to throw the toys out when he is dissatisfied with a surface, often reflected in poor points returns. He is a fair weather rider like that. That he is so powerful at home atm suggests the track is looking good, which is great for Swindon’s future. This is it, he’s probably the most vocal in speedway & he’s criticised the track before & rightfully so. Tonight it wasn’t bad & the racing showed that which is all I was saying. He went between riders 2 or 3 times & if the track wasn’t safe he’d have poodled at the back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: Id release both Wells and Berge, get a 2 pointer in at reserve and go get another heatleader if we can ...and Lemon...the lemon! Can't have a 2 pointer in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Bald Bloke said: Can't have a 2 pointer in the team. It was actually my quote initially and I meant 3 pointer. Bickley and NKI, for example 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Very good meeting and score even with r/r only scoring 5, Tobi would have got more, and Jason does not yet seem to be 100% fit yet. Things can only get better then we should climb up the league. Troy was brilliant and both Adam and Rassa had good races especially Rassa in heat 8. The track is good and is producing some very good racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, A ORLOV said: Very good meeting and score even with r/r only scoring 5, Tobi would have got more, and Jason does not yet seem to be 100% fit yet. Things can only get better then we should climb up the league. Troy was brilliant and both Adam and Rassa had good races especially Rassa in heat 8. The track is good and is producing some very good racing. I'm sure Matt will be glad to hear it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Some excellent racing tonight and a good team performance, particularly as our number 1 looked a little under horse power. Top marks to Troy (thanks also for the -1 v Polar), particularly in heat 15 as he cut back on the inside to go from third to first. Trapping is sublime and looking fast in front. Kid is looking a sensational signing on a similar average to Alpen a couple of seasons ago. A superb last to first ride in heat 8 getting up on the line, it was like watching Jamie Spencer at his best (that’s a joke by the way cos I think he’s a liability - Spencer not Razza). Must be the first name on the 2020 team sheet. Adam quietly went about his business and I thought Perks deserved more than his 3 point tally. His effort could not be faulted. For the Aces, I thought Lee Adams had returned, so similar was Fricke’s style. Quick and has a liking for the Blunsdon circuit, unfortunately, he had no support and tbh, I thought the Aces looked a bit Dennis Bergkamp (poor travellers) to me. A crucial time for Rosco. Stick, or twist. I think twist. I love Alpen, the rider not the muesli, but if he is out for any length of time then changes must be made, particularly if we can get Razza at reserve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) Another goodnight some really good racing again, i have to say the Aces were very disappointing they are better than that.Batchelor was sublime rasser again was outstanding Perks also rode his nuts off for scant reward he is making a good contribution though.For the Aces Fricke looked mighty quick, when he attacked those first and second bends it was like watching Adams all over again.Both these sides will be in the play/offs but i believe the Aces may have to replace Wells along the way. Edited June 18, 2019 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Aces unfortunately didn’t have their gating boots on, though you could pass on the track as heats 4,8 & 15 all had passing after the back straight, first lap. Obvious where changes needed within the team and we’ve still got to hope Steve and Dan come good after their horrendous injuries by the autumn. Jensen was the difference last night, what a signing. Well done Robins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 A very enjoyable meeting with some good racing. How on Earth has Rasmus Jensen ridden in the Second Division all these years and been practically unnoticed by myself at least? This guy is sensational and gives Swindon another instant heatleader and a very strong top end. This track is a world away from the old track, and it's great to actually have some passing in races now. Jensen's first to last was sensational, although I did think he could do it when looking at the line up in the race. It was till the race of the night though. There is talk of changes in the side due to Musielak's injury, but if he isn't going to be out for too long (and the latest information seems he's not as badly injured as first thought) then I wouldn't replace him. With him back in the top 5 we'll have a great side. Having said that, R/R scored 5. Bellego should be able to get 5 too, and we could bolster the reserves a bit. But I'd want Tobi back once fit. The reserves played their part, both picking up legitimate points. We just need to hold our own at reserve, and last night we did that. Good match, although Belle Vue were a bit of a disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, acef said: Someone is going to have to explain that heat 14 switch Bjerre has to use Lidsey’s bike in heat 13, no extra time would have been given so that’s why Wells was put in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, thecoombdog said: Your mate might be judging the racing compared to what you get to see every week so if they thought it was turd then that's up to them. But there were absolutely no bumps on that track tonight. Swindon fans are honest about the track. We aren't deluded like some fans of other clubs and I think you will find after the Peterborough and Poole meetings where it wasn't great everyone has said that . This track can get even better Batchelor has shown if you attack the track you can do well.This year i have seen more decent races than we have seen in the last 5 years.Still along away to go but most Robins fans are honest anough to say when the track has been crap.The Batchelor move on Bjerre said it all for me he drove through hard on the line because he had confidence in the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Hate to have seen what track was like previous weeks if that was really good last night. There is hump going into 1st bend and big one on inside of 3rd bend straightening riders up creating most of the passing opportunities. Happened several times to Doyle and twice to Fricke in heat 15 while trying to race with Doyle so just gave up. For BelleVue the defeat was well expected but bigger then thought, we knew Wells and Berge would be poor but Bjerre had bad night with bike problems, Lidsey started off great in heat 2 first time on track but then went backwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: This track can get even better Batchelor has shown if you attack the track you can do well.This year i have seen more decent races than we have seen in the last 5 years.Still along away to go but most Robins fans are honest anough to say when the track has been crap.The Batchelor move on Bjerre said it all for me he drove through hard on the line because he had confidence in the track. Yeah exactly. I think we have all been honest to say its been boring for ages there before this season. The track vs Poole was terrible this season and was only average for Peterborough but has been good for the other meetings and last night was particularly smooth. How anyone can say it was bumpy is beyond me. As Hyabb said, Batch would be the first one complaining if it was bad. He was absolute class last night. Jensen reminds me of a Killer when he first came on the scene at Swindon. Sounds like a double change is coming for 28 days at least. Makes sense is Jensen ends up at reserve for a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rob B said: Hate to have seen what track was like previous weeks if that was really good last night. There is hump going into 1st bend and big one on inside of 3rd bend straightening riders up creating most of the passing opportunities. Happened several times to Doyle and twice to Fricke in heat 15 while trying to race with Doyle so just gave up. For BelleVue the defeat was well expected but bigger then thought, we knew Wells and Berge would be poor but Bjerre had bad night with bike problems, Lidsey started off great in heat 2 first time on track but then went backwards. All people do is slate other teams tracks these days. You lot are spoiled each week with the best track in the country where as we have had sh1te for years. So yeah last night was good in my eyes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: All people do is slate other teams tracks these days. You lot are spoiled each week with the best track in the country where as we have had sh1te for years. So yeah last night was good in my eyes. Last night was perfectly good racing. It's just Belle Vue fans showing off because they have a great track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rob B said: Hate to have seen what track was like previous weeks if that was really good last night. There is hump going into 1st bend and big one on inside of 3rd bend straightening riders up creating most of the passing opportunities. Happened several times to Doyle and twice to Fricke in heat 15 while trying to race with Doyle so just gave up. For BelleVue the defeat was well expected but bigger then thought, we knew Wells and Berge would be poor but Bjerre had bad night with bike problems, Lidsey started off great in heat 2 first time on track but then went backwards. If so, How did Batch stay on going inside Bjerre into turn 1? I recall Ellis doing the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: If so, How did Batch stay on going inside Bjerre into turn 1? I recall Ellis doing the same? Pretty sure Jensens passes in heat 8 had F all to do with a hole in the track!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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