racers and royals Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NO actual evidence (at this stage) that One Sport will be involved although the Polish propaganda machine otherwise known as sportowefakty thinks otherwise. Do you think that any BSI employees will be head hunted by Eurosports events at the end of 2021 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Do you think that any BSI employees will be head hunted by Eurosports events at the end of 2021 ? MOST BSI employees don't hang around for more than two years. They see BSI/IMG as a stepping stone. The exception is Gemma Fordham, an absolute diamond who would be invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Does that mean I can cancel my BT Sport contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, norbold said: Does that mean I can cancel my BT Sport contract? That’s of interest to me as well. When I subscribed to Sky a few years ago I used Plusnet to get BT for speedway. But broadband then in my area was 1.2mbps on a good day, very poor. Much to my surprise Openreach came round to my countrified area and put Superfast Fibre bband in and via BT I get 72mbps plus I subscribe to BT sport to get speedway. BT have not released super fast fibre to any other supplier, so I will have a choice to make, do I stick with BT for super fast broadband and loose Speedway TV , or move to superSlow broadband and go to where I can get whatever channel speedway GP’s are on. I can live without British speedway but would really find it hard without the GP’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Seems a bit far fetched that U could cancel a sub because something MIGHT happen two years from now. But you can naturally try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 hours ago, norbold said: Does that mean I can cancel my BT Sport contract? Unlike with British Speedway the switch to Eurosport for the GPs does not take effect until 2022. The next two seasons will still be on BT Sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, f-s-p said: Seems a bit far fetched that U could cancel a sub because something MIGHT happen two years from now. But you can naturally try. I certainly did not mention cancel.... I am on a contract, I just need to watch end of my contract date in conjunction with contract dates if no longer showing on BT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NO actual evidence (at this stage) that One Sport will be involved although the Polish propaganda machine otherwise known as sportowefakty thinks otherwise. There was a report yesterday which did suggest it wasn't certain after previously suggesting One Sport were certain to be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Not sure I am happy about BSI no longer being involved, I think they have been great for the Series. Certainly dont like the thought of them running it the next 2 years knowing the series will soon no longer be theirs. Cant imagine there will be a great deal of effort regarding new venues etc! Edited December 4, 2019 by RPNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 13 hours ago, RPNY said: Not sure I am happy about BSI no longer being involved, I think they have been great for the Series. Certainly dont like the thought of them running it the next 2 years knowing the series will soon no longer be theirs. Cant imagine there will be a great deal of effort regarding new venues etc! Where exactly are the new venues everyone is after? Middle-East, Spain and United States are mentioned... Really? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 hours ago, f-s-p said: Where exactly are the new venues everyone is after? Middle-East, Spain and United States are mentioned... Really? Talk is cheap. Believing what you hear can be quite expensive. Discovery are making some pretty wide promises. Of course the question has to be whether they realise why these new territories haven't been tried or in the case of the Middle East and USA tried and failed at the level required? It all seems so much like the promises made to the BSPA for British coverage - many more potential viewers, new opportunities to attract sponsors. Eurosport is pay-TV in some countries, not in others. In Britain it's included in most basic pay-TV deals so many don't realise they are actually paying to watch it. The argument that switching from premium pay-TV such as BT Sport, NSport+ or C-More to Eurosport will give higher audiences is questionable. There is a much larger potential audience but the reality in Britain is that BT Sport gets a much higher audience than the cheaper Eurosport and even beats sister channel Quest which is a free TV channel. Hopefully that potential can be realised but I do fear that after after the fine promises we'll still be seeing meeting coverage starting with just a few heats to go, or banished to Eurosport Player. Maybe, maybe in the case of SGP with Discovery running the events as well as the TV coverage there might be a better approach - but their record so far is very unimpressive. It does look like a whole new level so we have to hope it works out. Ten years is a long time to regret a mistake..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Main thing is they get some new dolly birds in to replace the monster girls. I will miss Vicki Lund and co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 23 hours ago, RPNY said: Not sure I am happy about BSI no longer being involved, I think they have been great for the Series. Certainly dont like the thought of them running it the next 2 years knowing the series will soon no longer be theirs. Cant imagine there will be a great deal of effort regarding new venues etc! Tbh, they don't seem to have had great success with their Rally X efforts . The series went from 13 rounds to just 10 last year. Possible 11 next year but the contract is yet to be signed etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Tbh, they don't seem to have had great success with their Rally X efforts . The series went from 13 rounds to just 10 last year. Possible 11 next year but the contract is yet to be signed etc Recession is knocking at the door. Been 11 years when the lights went out big time last time... If you think about it, WRC only has three teams next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, f-s-p said: Where exactly are the new venues everyone is after? Middle-East, Spain and United States are mentioned... Really? Seen this article from Castagna now. Talk about giving countries where speedway is still just about established some priority. South Africa and of course his old favourite, Argentina. And that Discovery are well established in Asia, so........ https://www.speedweek.com/speedwaygp/news/152697/Exklusiv-Der-Speedway-GP-expandiert-ab-2022-weltweit.html Barely able to hold a straight face as I post this !!! Edited December 5, 2019 by iris123 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 8:17 PM, RPNY said: Not sure I am happy about BSI no longer being involved, I think they have been great for the Series. It remains to be seen what Discovery/Eurosport will do with the SGP, but a change has been long overdue. I do think speedway is a hard sell nowadays, but IMG/BSI haven't taken things forward in recent years and it's time for someone else to have a try. Of course, it's a bit strange that the incumbent has to continue to run the SGP for a couple of years after it's lost the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said: It remains to be seen what Discovery/Eurosport will do with the SGP, but a change has been long overdue. I do think speedway is a hard sell nowadays, but IMG/BSI haven't taken things forward in recent years and it's time for someone else to have a try. Of course, it's a bit strange that the incumbent has to continue to run the SGP for a couple of years after it's lost the franchise. Have to give time for Discovery to do their deals with the third world. Their arguments for getting the SGP circus are similar to getting British Speedway - wonderful new opportunities, millions of new viewers, and of course the key aspect - money, loads of it. Easy talk. Let's see if they deliver. Transmitting the programmes in full and at the right time would be a good start. Edited December 11, 2019 by RobMcCaffery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 10:50 AM, Humphrey Appleby said: It remains to be seen what Discovery/Eurosport will do with the SGP, but a change has been long overdue. I do think speedway is a hard sell nowadays, but IMG/BSI haven't taken things forward in recent years and it's time for someone else to have a try. Of course, it's a bit strange that the incumbent has to continue to run the SGP for a couple of years after it's lost the franchise. Whats to take forward? Each major speedway country has been in decline for the past decade. Just because Poland has Ekstraliga on TV doesnt mean the sport is doing well there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 20 hours ago, f-s-p said: Whats to take forward? Each major speedway country has been in decline for the past decade. Just because Poland has Ekstraliga on TV doesnt mean the sport is doing well there. Krakow and Pila both out of racing this year. Most of the Ekstraliga teams on supervised conditional licences, including the champions, Leszno. Huge crowds and high income are great, as long as you don't have higher costs. Pila withdrew because the local council wouldn't subsidise this year's losses. Sometimes you need to look past the glitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Every time I read anything quoting what Castagna has to say on these matters just makes him sound more and more of a prat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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