Mr Blobby Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 New format this year 12 riders 2 semi finals and final compared to the 16 rider field. Sam masters no longer riding thanks to the powers at be once again showing their true colours by not allowing him to ride in meeting. Until it becomes an independent body the sport will continue to be a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eide67 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 The quote on the website from John Campbell states: "The problem is all to do with what tracks Sam is allowed to ride on in the UK." This suggests that Sam is not allowed to ride at Armadale, but he's already ridden there this season on April 12th for Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eide67 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Its not Armadale specifically, I don’t believe Sam’s visa allows him to double-up. When he rode for Wolves earlier in the season he was riding for his own Club. Okay, thanks. Any idea why some riders have visas that don't allow doubling-up while others do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 But he’s also rode at Leicester and Redcar neither with wolves. Certain people at the BSPA have an issue with the club, same person who wouldn’t allow us to sign becker last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, eide67 said: Okay, thanks. Any idea why some riders have visas that don't allow doubling-up while others do? Employment visa's can be very specific and can dictate what type of meeting a rider can appear in. For example it can state a rider can only ride in meetings in which his employer ( club ) is competing in, also at what level ( league ) he can appear in. The BSPA also have their own rules on Premiership contracted riders ( Masters ) appearing at lower level meetings and fees used to have to be paid but I believe this has now been wavered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: But he’s also rode at Leicester and Redcar neither with wolves. Certain people at the BSPA have an issue with the club, same person who wouldn’t allow us to sign becker last year. Leicester for the Ben Fund, Redcar for Ben Barker’s testimonial, neither of which meetings are paid - I expect that’s the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 49 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Leicester for the Ben Fund, Redcar for Ben Barker’s testimonial, neither of which meetings are paid - I expect that’s the difference. how would it be if Sam was to waive payment, but receive sponsorship 'donations'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Personally feel like if it was any other club it wouldn’t be a problem. Ever since Alex stepped down we’ve had nothing but issues with the BSPA. Also I see there is a young Aussie over riding in an individual at Somerset but I take it that’s slightly different as he’s not attached to a club? Edited June 6, 2019 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: But he’s also rode at Leicester and Redcar neither with wolves. Certain people at the BSPA have an issue with the club, same person who wouldn’t allow us to sign becker last year. 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: Leicester for the Ben Fund, Redcar for Ben Barker’s testimonial, neither of which meetings are paid - I expect that’s the difference. I would assume that the participating riders in the Peter Craven Memorial Meeting held at BV on 30th March would be paid. Included in those appearing were Justin Sedgmen (Edinburgh) & Broc Nicol (Sheffield). I believe that JS is riding under a CL- only visa, and perhaps MC member Damien Bates can clarify if Nicol is riding under a CL -only visa also If this is correct, what is the difference between Masters riding in a paid Individual meeting in a League not covered by his visa at Edinburgh, to that permitting Nicol & Sedgmen to do so at Belle Vue? Edited June 6, 2019 by cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Nothing meeting. Similar line up to last season but with less riders. Yes good to see the old favorites back but a meeting I don't mind missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: But he’s also rode at Leicester and Redcar neither with wolves. Certain people at the BSPA have an issue with the club, same person who wouldn’t allow us to sign becker last year. 3 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Leicester for the Ben Fund, Redcar for Ben Barker’s testimonial, neither of which meetings are paid - I expect that’s the difference. I would assume that the participating riders in the Peter Craven Memorial Meeting held at BV on 30th March would be paid. Included in those appearing were Justin Sedgmen (Edinburgh) & Broc Nicol (Sheffield). I believe that JS is riding under a CL- only visa, and perhaps MC member Damien Bates can clarify if Nicol is also riding under a CL -only visa If this is correct, what is the difference between Masters riding in a paid Individual meeting in a League not covered by his visa at Edinburgh, to that permitting Nicol & Sedgmen to do so at Belle Vue? Edited June 6, 2019 by cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: Personally feel like if it was any other club it wouldn’t be a problem. Ever since Alex stepped down we’ve had nothing but issues with the BSPA. Is this another way of saying we could do what we liked when Alex was in charge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Meeting off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, SharpenRake said: Is this another way of saying we could do what we liked when Alex was in charge No, since Alex has left the rules seem to change or get worded different depending on what club it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: No, since Alex has left the rules seem to change or get worded different depending on what club it is. A ken what you mean like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: No, since Alex has left the rules seem to change or get worded different depending on what club it is. No different from before then - perhaps the change has been which clubs benefit....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 16 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: Personally feel like if it was any other club it wouldn’t be a problem. Ever since Alex stepped down we’ve had nothing but issues with the BSPA. Also I see there is a young Aussie over riding in an individual at Somerset but I take it that’s slightly different as he’s not attached to a club? The lad Cook has a patriality. On the bigger question, it is without doubt the case that since the BSPA changes, the rules are changed to suit those and such as those - the Worky/Lakeside Friday fixture cancellations last season being a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just love a good conspiracy theory , you just can't beat them on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 7 June 2019 at 2:37 PM, crescent girl said: The lad Cook has a patriality. On the bigger question, it is without doubt the case that since the BSPA changes, the rules are changed to suit those and such as those - the Worky/Lakeside Friday fixture cancellations last season being a prime example. On 7 June 2019 at 2:37 PM, crescent girl said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 The B.S.P.A. Is simply run on the basis of who has the most ' influence ' gets what he wants. Change of Race night fiasco was a prime example when messers Godfrey and Dickson shouted the loudest and moved to Friday nights shafting Edinburgh , Peterborugh and Workington ( who asked for Friday's ). Godfrey changed the rules on marking of tracks by the Refs half way through the season as his track/ stadium was continually marked down by them due to the many issues there. No promoter can own more than one track? we all know what's happened with that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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