Barrow Boy 2 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 As at 31.05.19 my top 20 riders on current form were as follows:- 01 Jason Doyle-Swindon-1110 02 Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1050 03 Brady Kurtz-Poole-1010 04 Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-950 05 Max Fricke-Belle Vue-940 06 Robert Lambert-Kings Lynn-9.35 07 Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-930 08 Jack Holder-Poole-890 09 Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-860 10 Charles Wright-Peterborough-845 11 Scott Nicholls-Peterborough-840 12 Josh Grajczonek-Poole-8.35 13 Nicolai Klindt-Poole-830 14 Richard Lawson-Ipswich-815 15 Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-810 16 Eric Riss-Kings Lynn-805 17 Jake Allen-Ipswich-790 18 Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-780 19 Adam Ellis-Swindon-775 20 Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 half of those riders are also in the championship top 20 as well . so basically its a top 10 . bad signs for speedway in general ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Heeps,,, been on fire and first rider to get to 50 points not on list,,, Harris,,, been totally useless averaging only 4 is on list. Mmmm 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, jenga said: half of those riders are also in the championship top 20 as well . so basically its a top 10 . bad signs for speedway in general ! Eight out of twenty is 40% not half. Four of those have dropped down to the Championship to double up/down because one assumes there is reasonable money on offer and their foreign league spots have dried up. Whether that’s good for speedway or not is debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 It does say "MY" top 20 . Its just the way he does his ratings . You will always find a few differences of opinion that is why its not "YOUR" or "THE" top 20 list . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Well my top 20 is this Heeps Allen King schlein Nicholls s Worrall Toft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 9:07 AM, Barrow Boy 2 said: As at 31.05.19 my top 20 riders on current form were as follows:- 01 Jason Doyle-Swindon-1110 02 Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1050 03 Brady Kurtz-Poole-1010 04 Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-950 05 Max Fricke-Belle Vue-940 06 Robert Lambert-Kings Lynn-9.35 07 Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-930 08 Jack Holder-Poole-890 09 Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-860 10 Charles Wright-Peterborough-845 11 Scott Nicholls-Peterborough-840 12 Josh Grajczonek-Poole-8.35 13 Nicolai Klindt-Poole-830 14 Richard Lawson-Ipswich-815 15 Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-810 16 Eric Riss-Kings Lynn-805 17 Jake Allen-Ipswich-790 18 Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-780 19 Adam Ellis-Swindon-775 20 Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 Just exactly what do the figures after the rider's names represent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Harris struggling in Premier League, doing well in Championship.Wheres Kingy and Heeps? My top 20 riders on current form in Premier League would be Doyley, Kurtz, Fricko,Batch, Holder, Bjerre, Cookie, Lawson, King, Heeps, Wrighty, Klindt, Jensen, Thorsell, Schleiny, Lambert, Ellis, Allen, Worrall, Andersen. Edited June 6, 2019 by auntie doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Charles Wright has been amazing and has a great style to watch around the Eoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Im assuming the "My" is actually a snapshot of meetings producing an average from solely that period? If so could it not be titled Top 20 riders averages between date X and Y ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) My top 20 riders as at 30.06.19 based on current form are now as follows:- 01 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1100 02 (05) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1090 03 (----) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-1060 04 (----) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-1020 05 (02) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1000 06 (12) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-990 07 (03) Brady Kurtz-Poole-970 08 (06) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-930 09 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-925 10 (04) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-900 11 (07) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-890 12 (15) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-885 13 (14) Richard Lawson-Ipswich-870 14 (13) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-840 15 (09) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-830 16 (10) Charles Wright-Peterborough-810 17 (20) Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 18 (18) Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-765 19 (17) Jake Allen-Ipswich-760 20 (----) Hans Andersen-Peterborough-755 Edited July 1, 2019 by Barrow Boy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 I think maybe you should lose the words current form,,,, as Allen has been out for a few weeks. It's always an interesting read though, I love reading nerdy stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) Missed King Heeps Ellis out. I will go Doyle Jensen Cook Fricke Batch Bjerre Kurtz Holder Heeps Klindt Lawson Schlein Grajczonek Masters King Wright Lambert Ellis Andersen Tungate Edited July 1, 2019 by auntie doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 2:14 PM, maneacat said: Charles Wright has been amazing and has a great style to watch around the Eoes. Good rider is Charles, excellent style on sweeping tracks like Eoes & Ota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, noggin said: Good rider is Charles, excellent style on sweeping tracks like Eoes & Ota. Used to watch him in second halves at Worky about 14 years ago, wonder what happened to older bruv James Wrighty who rode for Worky and Swindon, thought he would have a name for himself in speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: My top 20 riders as at 30.06.19 based on current form are now as follows:- 01 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1100 02 (05) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1090 03 (----) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-1060 04 (----) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-1020 05 (02) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1000 06 (12) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-990 07 (03) Brady Kurtz-Poole-970 08 (06) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-930 09 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-925 10 (04) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-900 11 (07) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-890 12 (15) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-885 13 (14) Richard Lawson-Ipswich-870 14 (13) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-840 15 (09) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-830 16 (10) Charles Wright-Peterborough-810 17 (20) Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 18 (18) Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-765 19 (17) Jake Allen-Ipswich-760 20 (----) Hans Andersen-Peterborough-755 I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: My top 20 riders as at 30.06.19 based on current form are now as follows:- 01 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1100 02 (05) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1090 03 (----) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-1060 04 (----) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-1020 05 (02) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1000 06 (12) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-990 07 (03) Brady Kurtz-Poole-970 08 (06) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-930 09 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-925 10 (04) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-900 11 (07) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-890 12 (15) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-885 13 (14) Richard Lawson-Ipswich-870 14 (13) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-840 15 (09) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-830 16 (10) Charles Wright-Peterborough-810 17 (20) Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 18 (18) Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-765 19 (17) Jake Allen-Ipswich-760 20 (----) Hans Andersen-Peterborough-755 I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, auntie doris said: Used to watch him in second halves at Worky about 14 years ago, wonder what happened to older bruv James Wrighty who rode for Worky and Swindon, thought he would have a name for himself in speedway? Not sure whether he is still riding, sure he rode last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 He does the odd grasstrack meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. The 20 riders riding above there averages by the most are obviously the top 20 form riders. It's not how this chap does it though. So basically form has jack all to do with it,,,it's about what races you are in,, as the supposed bigger races are points loaded. Anyone can make up a system and stick it on here,,,,if that's your bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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