Aviator Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Having just watched the GP Qualifiers for tomorrow’s SGP in Krsko, I was surprised to see that Polish clubs had precedence over the FIM on GP riders in qualifying for gate positions in an FIM event. Last nights Danish final took two Poole riders out of a league event to ride in an FIM event. Seems to me that the Polish Speedway Authorities are doing a Winston Churchill to the FIM!!! Might be a good idea if the FIM were to inform the Poles who are are the sports “Governing” body, that’s if they’ve got the B4LL5’s.. Edited May 31, 2019 by Aviator 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Aviator said: Having just watched the GP Qualifiers for tomorrow’s SGP in Krsko, I was surprised to see that Polish clubs had precedence over the FIM on GP riders in qualifying for gate positions in an FIM event. Last nights Danish final took two Poole riders out of a league event to ride in an FIM event. Seems to me that the Polish Speedway Authorities are doing a Winston Churchill to the FIM!!! Might be a good idea if the FIM were to inform the Poles who are are the sports “Governing” body, that’s if they’ve got the B4LL5’s.. British speedway should have come out of the FIM years ago and done their own thing. The FIM have never been interested in the sport this side of the channel 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, crazyb said: British speedway should have come out of the FIM years ago and done their own thing. The FIM have never been interested in the sport this side of the channel That’s a sad state of affairs when the World Champion and the SON Silver Medalists are from this side of the channel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aviator said: Having just watched the GP Qualifiers for tomorrow’s SGP in Krsko, I was surprised to see that Polish clubs had precedence over the FIM on GP riders in qualifying for gate positions in an FIM event. Last nights Danish final took two Poole riders out of a league event to ride in an FIM event. Seems to me that the Polish Speedway Authorities are doing a Winston Churchill to the FIM!!! Might be a good idea if the FIM were to inform the Poles who are are the sports “Governing” body, that’s if they’ve got the B4LL5’s.. THE Danish Final isn't an FIM event ... with British tracks not racing at home every week some fixture planning should not go amiss.GP practice isn't compulsory so the riders can chose. However, I do agree that the FIM should have stopped Polish tracks from staging meetings involving GP riders on a Friday before a World Championship round. But not all agree. Edited May 31, 2019 by PHILIPRISING 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE Danish Final isn't an FIM event ... with British tracks not racing at home every week some fixture planning should not go amiss.GP practice isn't compulsory so the riders can chose. However, I do agree that the FIM should have stopped Polish tracks from staging meetings involving GP riders on a Friday before a World Championship round. But not all agree. So you are saying it is the riders choice where he rides? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE Danish Final isn't an FIM event ... with British tracks not racing at home every week some fixture planning should not go amiss.GP practice isn't compulsory so the riders can chose. However, I do agree that the FIM should have stopped Polish tracks from staging meetings involving GP riders on a Friday before a World Championship round. But not all agree. It begs another question, “what do the FIM do? Or, are responsible for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Jollies, blazers, dinners, trophies etc. The formal face of motorcycle sport. Occasional " court" to hold a rider to account for some misdemeanour. But toothless in the face of other powerful influences of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Aviator said: It begs another question, “what do the FIM do? Or, are responsible for? QUITE a lot actually and, of course, speedway is only part of it. There was a time when members of the BSPA contemplated operating outside the FIM but, of course, that would have led to complete isolation. Countries like Denmark, Sweden and Poland would never have followed suit which would have meant British riders being excluded from any international events including the World Championship. Was never going to happen despite frustrations with Geneva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Aviator said: So you are saying it is the riders choice where he rides? YES it is. But with GP practice not being compulsory, riders know what side their bread is buttered and will race in Poland on a Friday not only for the money on offer that particular night but to ensure their future lucrative employment with the club. The FIM have definitely looked at stopping this but legally it would open a can of worms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Was this GP Qualifying the idea of the FIM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 I posted this on another thread but thought it was fitting for it to be here as well. I think Polish speedway authorites are spoiling speedway. There should be no top class speedway the night before a world GP anywhere. Riders deserve to be able to put in the max effort to win the world championship, the pinnacle of any sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Aviator said: That’s a sad state of affairs when the World Champion and the SON Silver Medalists are from this side of the channel.. He doesn't rife in this country and the SON is only a glorified pairs meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Trees said: Was this GP Qualifying the idea of the FIM? THINK it was a joint effort from both the FIM and BSI/IMG to beef up interest in Friday's practice but, unlike F1 for example, being fastest the day before actually means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, crazyb said: He doesn't rife in this country and the SON is only a glorified pairs meeting WHATEVER you may think of the SON, it is a World Championship and certainly seen as such by the riders, especially those that collect a gold medal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 I have no issue with riders who choose to take part in their own country's national championship eg Denmark, and that those championships (semi-finals and Final) should take precedence over league meetings anywhere. However its the Danes decision to run the semi and final on 2 Thursdays that ought to be challenged as its not an FIM-agreed priority racenight in Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Let’s face it the FIM don’t care about motorcycle sport at all these days as all they do is rent each discipline out to the highest bidder, not necessarily the best for the sport itself, as for SGP they should have stood up to the PZM along with the riders to stop this happening. ive noticed crowds are down at many polish clubs compared to a couple of years ago as they move to different race days and if the tv money dries up as it has here it could go **** up over there. i don’t think due to the contracts the riders have much choice but that’s the same everywhere for speedway riders, no rights. Edited June 1, 2019 by brewer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 9 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: WHATEVER you may think of the SON, it is a World Championship and certainly seen as such by the riders, especially those that collect a gold medal. So, whatever happened to the World Team Cup, not enough riders to go round, or too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, crazyb said: So, whatever happened to the World Team Cup, not enough riders to go round, or too expensive THE SON is in effect the World Team Cup but with a different format. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted June 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 13 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: THINK it was a joint effort from both the FIM and BSI/IMG to beef up interest in Friday's practice but, unlike F1 for example, being fastest the day before actually means nothing. That’s not the way the current world champion sees it. He clearly stated tonight that he missed out through not being able to practice/qualify yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 39 minutes ago, Aviator said: That’s not the way the current world champion sees it. He clearly stated tonight that he missed out through not being able to practice/qualify yesterday. ZMARZKIK won and he didn't practice... but we weren't talking about practice as such but the time trials to allow riders to chose their starting number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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