NeilWatson Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Scott Nicholls Wolverhampton/Leicester . Has Buster moved him on already!!! I took that from the BSPA site, item dated 13th May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Joke having this meeting at a track with a curfew ,,and worse only one ambulance apparently ,,another speedway shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, waco said: Joke having this meeting at a track with a curfew ,,and worse only one ambulance apparently ,,another speedway shambles A meeting which ended within the curfew? A very unfortunate turn of events has soured the meeting slightly, horrendous first bend incident with all four lads going down. Garrity looked in a lot of pain holding his wrist. Not entirely sure how Nielsen got up to ride again. Best wishes to Garrity and Howarth. Although how on earth the referee excluded him I will never know, shocking decision. Second incident with a member of the crowd looked very serious indeed and something that just cannot be helped. Best wishes to that person. Meeting itself was decent although with such a wide gulf between riders not too much in the way of racing. Paul Starke was excellent, and Danny Ayres again superb. Charles was superb, and on that form got to be a good bet for podium? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, waco said: Joke having this meeting at a track with a curfew ,,and worse only one ambulance apparently ,,another speedway shambles What a brilliant comment from someone who has no idea how a speedway meeting is run. 90% of tracks have a curfew and tonight Redcar deliberately ran over it to complete the meeting so no problem whatsoever. The club paid the BSPA to run this meeting and extra medical staff and vehicles are very expensive to hire so why double your bills, just in case? Despite the medical emergencys , which no one could have foretold, it was a decent meeting and it was completed , none of the healthy crowd that were present, ( and you weren't there ) complained and all stayed back to watch the presentations so no 'shambles' occurred. Edited May 31, 2019 by Fortythirtyeight 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 some of the comments are typical anti North bias - something we encounter every single day in every area of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Conflicting reports here of the meeting completed within the curfew,,,and the meeting deliberately ran over the curfew,,,cant both be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 12 hours ago, waco said: 6 minutes ago, waco said: Conflicting reports here of the meeting completed within the curfew,,,and the meeting deliberately ran over the curfew,,,cant both be right Was announced over the tannoy that the curfew was 10:30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr2 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Was definitely announced on tannoy. First time I've known curves after 10 so how about praise for promotion who seem to have been pro-active. Definitely a good feel around Redcar this season,well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Changed from original statements that it was 10 pm then ,,that is a reasonable curfew, 10-30pm,,,,my original post was based on the 10 pm statement,,,I still feel 2 ambulances are needed at speedway meetings as they were when i worked and prepared the track at Rye House in the early 80s,,,under the circumstances they did well to complete the meeting Edited June 1, 2019 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boothers Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Can posters on here please stop criticising Redcar for the 'lack of a 2nd ambulance'. Firstly if the requirement to have a second ambulance was needed by the ruling bodies then Redcar would have provided one or we wouldn't have been given the meeting in the first place. Secondly can the critical posters tell us how many other British Semi final meetings - or indeed Finals - have actually had two ambulances in attendance? No? Probably because, fortunately, last nights circumstances have never arisen before. The only difference two ambulances would have made last night was that the meeting would have finished possibly 50 minutes earlier than it did. The major hold up being after the awful Heat 1 crash where riders were being medically attended to on track for perhaps 20 minutes. It was deemed then by the attendant paramedics that outside help was required and the 'county' ambulance (why is it called that?) was called for. I don't know what the critical posters think of our (marvellous) health services these days but ambulance staff/paramedics do not just dump patients off at hospital and I would suggest that said 2nd ambulance would not have been back at the stadium when the unfortunate spectator took ill. A First Response ambulance arrived within minutes and their specialist knowledge deemed that a seriously ill person required hospital treatment and another ambulance was called for. To criticise Redcar for any of this is beyond belief. The vast majority of the people stayed to the end (including the presentations) and although we grumbled what's the problem? The Redcar promotion team are enthusiastic and forward thinking and should be praised for the efforts they are making this year and not being shot at by petty minded jibes from outsiders. Oh and I also didn't appreciate a certain riders comment over the microphone under the circumstances. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: What a brilliant comment from someone who has no idea how a speedway meeting is run. 90% of tracks have a curfew and tonight Redcar deliberately ran over it to complete the meeting so no problem whatsoever. The club paid the BSPA to run this meeting and extra medical staff and vehicles are very expensive to hire so why double your bills, just in case? Despite the medical emergencys , which no one could have foretold, it was a decent meeting and it was completed , none of the healthy crowd that were present, ( and you weren't there ) complained and all stayed back to watch the presentations so no 'shambles' occurred. I, along with a few others left after heat 9 so you are wrong in your assumption that all the crowd stayed back for the presentations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 As someone who travelled 2 hours for it, I have a right to complain. But you know what, i wont. Why should i. You cant help a 1st heat smash with 3 riders needing alot of medical help. Dont think even 2 ambulance would have helped that situation. Hope both Jason and Kyle come away rather unscathed. And best wishes to them. Gutted for them to miss out on the final. Then the crowd member took I'll, looked serious from a distance away. Hope that person is ok. And it was all precaution. They announced they have extended the curfew till 10:30pm. That looks a tad optimistic for them to get 9 races in but they did it. I arrive back home to Manchester for 00:30am so it bad at all. I enjoyed myself. Well done redcar I say. Oh and congratulations to the 6 riders who qualified 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) "I, along with a few others left after heat 9 so you are wrong in your assumption that all the crowd stayed back for the presentations." wow!, so a small number or people left after the second medical incident after heat 9? This was around 9:15 pm. If this is worth commenting on no wonder the likes of ' Waco ' puts so much into this forum with his constant negative remarks. Your ' local ' so why leave at 9:15? ....you don't need to answer that. The curfew at Redcar is 10pm , always has been since 2006 and it is written in the lease as ' Racing SHOULD be completed by 10pm'. The curfew has been breached on only 3 occasions in 13 years and after consultation with senior members of the management it was agreed to run passed it again last night for the good of the fans. Let's applaud Redcar Promotion for that decision! Edited June 1, 2019 by Fortythirtyeight 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Out of interest, can I please ask why there is a curfew. Doesnt seem to be any houses near by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Another thing, how the hell did the ref come to the conclusion that howarth should be excluded for that heat 1 crash. Refs getting worse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Out of interest, can I please ask why there is a curfew. Doesnt seem to be any houses near by South Bank residential houses are less than 1/4 mile away , they were closer till a recent ' development ' knocked the estate down. Dependant on the wind direction the noise from the Motorsports Park carries considerable distance and can be heard over a mile away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Another thing, how the hell did the ref come to the conclusion that howarth should be excluded for that heat 1 crash. Refs getting worse Agreed. Fortunately (can I say that under the circumstances?) after his withdrawal from the meeting the exclusion was meaningless but would have hate to have thought this could have cost him a Final place. Awful decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: South Bank residential houses are less than 1/4 mile away , they were closer till a recent ' development ' knocked the estate down. Dependant on the wind direction the noise from the Motorsports Park carries considerable distance and can be heard over a mile away. Cheers. I did wonder. Deffo windy at redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Back to the Meeting itself. Congratulations to Charles on winning as I thought he rode well within himself, taking no chances and just concentrating on qualifying but still winning the meeting. Paul Starke rode brilliantly and barring his mechanical problem in Ht. 17 would have won the meeting, having already beaten Charles and countback being in operation (God help us with these moaners if run-offs had been required). Good to see Lewis Kerr's performance and as for Danny Ayres? been phenomenal round the MPA over the last 2 weeks - Scunthorpe are lucky to have him. And yes Phil it's windy at Redcar, especially on the 2nd bend, but was quite mild last night. Didn't even put my coat on until about Heat 16! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Another thing, how the hell did the ref come to the conclusion that howarth should be excluded for that heat 1 crash. Refs getting worse There is a picture of the moments just before the first heat crash - I couldn't believe Howarth was excluded (and neither could he judging by his reaction despite being in pain) https://twitter.com/SpeedwayGB/status/1134764196195950592?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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