ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, guitar_art said: Some have made comments about Zach and I just thought I would point out that at times Zach has been the only rider for us to cheer on. He has top scored for us on three different occasions I do not think we should replace Zach i have never said that , as when he does make the gate he can/does win races. The point Hobbit made which i initially disagreed with is ,he never goes past anyone when he misses the gate even if he is carrying more more speed than the rider in front of him. Would you agree or disagree with that GA ? you have a great view on turn 2 of exactly the point the hobbit makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Well i disagree . People who are unsure if there attending or not only need a small factor to swing it into a no. Constant doom and gloom weather reports will have some peoples mind up early . If people "will make their own mind up " why do you then put it up for the benefit of Eastbourne fans ?? are they incapable of making their own mind up ? are they incapable of reading a weather forecast ? hmmm seems odd . Myself and others think it is extremely unhelpful can you not accept that ? I can accept the fact you disagree but i do not understand the need to keep updating everyone on poor forecasts . Your entitled to your opinion (of course I accept that) but do you seriously think that anybody attending for the first time, or even the occasional attender, reads this forum ??? there's only you, H Gould, UK Martin and myself, that make regular comments??? : ) As for GA, he makes a lot of sensible and very diplomatic points, but his loyalties obviously lie in protecting the business that he works for. Hence the comment about Zach ??? I'd much rather see Tobias Thomsen in the side. Zach may have top scored a couple of times, but he hasn't passed a rider all season! P.s the benefit for the Eastbourne fans (re: the weather) is that they have a 400 mile round trip …..I thought that was pretty obvious??? If it helps the club I wont mention the weather again : ) Edited June 1, 2019 by GiveusaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: As for GA, he makes a lot of sensible and very diplomatic points, but his loyalties obviously lie in protecting the business that he works for. I am not sure he works for Birmingham speedway tbh as far as i was aware he was a volunteer . I stand corrected if i am wrong . I do get your point though GA will never say anything negative about any Brummies rider maybe he thinks if you have nothing good to say do not say it . Unlike myself while i can be critical also give out plenty of praise too . end of the day i think we all just want whats best for the Brummies . P.S I think Eastbourne fans can read a forecast for themselves . P.P.S This thread has been viewed over 2500 times. Edited June 1, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 I questioned Zach’s heart and bottle ( he has the ability ). time will tell all I can say is watch this space over the next few days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 15 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: I am not sure he works for Birmingham speedway tbh as far as i was aware he was a volunteer . I stand corrected if i am wrong . I do get your point though GA will never say anything negative about any Brummies rider maybe he thinks if you have nothing good to say do not say it . Unlike myself while i can be critical also give out plenty of praise too . end of the day i think we all just want whats best for the Brummies . P.S I think Eastbourne fans can read a forecast for themselves . P.P.S This thread has been viewed over 2500 times. Sorry to go on....my point about the 'weather forecast' is/was they can get it wrong?......therefore, I was informing Eastbourne fans first hand advice on the weather.....just helping a fellow speedway fan but as I said previously, if it doesn't help, then I wont mention it again ….. no problem! (p.s we predicted the score correctly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 As I said , time will tell. Zach has quit https://m.facebook.com/story/graphql_permalink/?graphql_id=UzpfSTE1NTc5NDg0OTQ0NDU5MDc6MjMyOTIyMjk0NzMxODQ1NA%3D%3D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 Just to pick up on a couple of points. As has been said I dont work for Birmingham. I am a volunteer. Its wrong to say that I never criticise Birmingham riders. I have done so previously on my radio program and have even this year mentioned concern for Ulrich and some other riders. However I always think very hard before critisising riders and it is never my default position. I have heard people say that as long as a rider is very obviously trying hard then as a supporter we cant ask for anything more. I think its been obvious that Ulrich and Zach have been trying. However its also been obvious that Zach isnt himself and i am glad he has made a decision to think of his own state of mind first. Its going to be interesting now to see how the management reacts to this latest development. Something I think I should add about criticism. Laurence Rogers has come in for (IMO) some very harsh criticism based on percieved past performance as far as i can see. I spoke to several Birmingham riders last year and to a man they where nothing but complimentary about Mr Rogers. One rider in particular was angry about some of the things that had been said on the various social media platforms. Who was that rider? Well I'm not saying as it was said in confidence. I will say that it is a very respected rider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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