ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, the hobbit said: Harsh maybe but, true !!! From your comment, i’d Assume you are not.a Brummies fan who actually has to watch this bottling, week in, week out. I’m given to believe that the same criticisms are being levelled against him by some Swindon fans also, which if correct, speaks volumes!! what Zach needs, is to grow a pair!! Have to agree with you here hobbit when you initially made the point i did not agree .But i took your opinion in and in the 3 or 4 meetings since you are spot on. Too the point where it is glaringly obvious to be honest . If he makes the gate he has the machinery to stay out in front but if he does not then he ends up been far quicker than the rider in front of him but for some reason shutting off when he gets within a bikes lengh . RE: Rogers i also agree he should just stick the the m/sdl . He may be a lovely fella but Speedway management is not for him as his appalling record shows . Edited May 30, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 you cant buy confidence at the supermarket, sadly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 In fairness to Zach he has had some nasty injuries in his career. He knows how to go fast we’ve seen him have plenty of speed on the longtrack he just needs confidence with the speedway. Berge & Bach to replace ulrich & Zach presumably? Failing that can they bring in Becker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Becker would come in on a 6.00 average would be great to see him down Perry Barr . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 sorry to be a party pooper...Becker / Berge / Bach / Wilson-Dean are all good names but none of them would come cheap and crowds are abysmal. would Becker need a work permit and doesn't he ride on Continent a lot?, Berge seemed to have "lack of mechanic issues" on a Wednesday night at Somerset, Bech would incur flight fees and Denmark League races on a Wednesday night, Wilson-Dean would seem only logical shout of those therefore and would want same deal as Ellis probably? I doubt the Promotion can splash any more cash until they see Crowds markedly up, 2 home wins a good improvement but we need some sunny warm Wednesdays to see if there is any increase in sides now Ellis / Stoneman have perked the Team up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 I've never heard you so bitter Hobbit? It does make me smile when you say it as it is..... Congratulations to the promotion for getting/putting the meeting on last night .... they had some stick the other week and now they deserve some credit (imo) As for the meeting? It was surprisingly quite good up until about heat 9/10.....then the track became a 'one line' circuit.....hence Adam's 2 defeats.... Lawson and Kennett got to the 2nd bend dirt first.....(may be due to Ellis's earlier start warning?) As for the track itself? it appeared to have more shale on it, but I don't think that it was evenly spread? (but I'm no expert) A previous comment 'Stoneman put Zach and Ulrich to shame'....Spot on! As for Ulrich? I think he was unlucky to be excluded when clashing with Newman? I also think that Kennett was at fault in heat 1 and shouldve been excluded....but it's all down to angles etc....I maintain that Ulrich is still a good rider on woeful machinery!? Zach needs to take a break and search for some commitment/confidence....he struggled to control his bike on bends 3/4 last night....he doesnt appear to be able to handle the speed? We're screaming out for Luke Becker if his International permit allows ? Can we afford him? I'd replace Zach and Ulrich with Danyon and Luke! P.s Paco is a class apart when he gates....but he doesn't gate consistently enough imo....I think he will struggle if put in the main body of the team? Bring on Sheffield....I think we will do them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Ulrich Ostergaard has won 4 of his 41 heats this season that is pathetic .Do not why people keep making excuses for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 What about Tero Aarnio? I think his average is 6 something if you could get him in and maybe replace Zac W? It would make a huge difference although he does ride in Poland I think so he may miss some meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, bloom89 said: What about Tero Aarnio? I think his average is 6 something if you could get him in and maybe replace Zac W? It would make a huge difference although he does ride in Poland I think so he may miss some meetings. It's all about cost. I don't know how the Brummies are surviving on current crowd levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Ulrich Ostergaard has won 4 of his 41 heats this season that is pathetic .Do not why people keep making excuses for him. Fully understand yours and others frustration/disappointment/anger with Ulle’s scores. Having known him for a long time, what I can say is that he’s as frustrated as anyone with his performance. I can assure you that he’s not just at Brum to pick up the money, in fact he’s not earning much as he gets paid (rightly) for points scored not a comfy guarantee! Speedway can be cruel when you’re struggling a bit, last week his engine blew in first ride after being a victim of first bend bunching last night, the ignition went on bike in warm up and he was unlucky to be excluded with clashing with Kyle Fans just want to see riders performing as they should I fully understand that - machinery issues aren’t something that fans should have to worry about, but just saying when your lucks out, your lucks out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The H Man said: Fully understand yours and others frustration/disappointment/anger with Ulle’s scores. Having known him for a long time, what I can say is that he’s as frustrated as anyone with his performance. I can assure you that he’s not just at Brum to pick up the money, in fact he’s not earning much as he gets paid (rightly) for points scored not a comfy guarantee! Speedway can be cruel when you’re struggling a bit, last week his engine blew in first ride after being a victim of first bend bunching last night, the ignition went on bike in warm up and he was unlucky to be excluded with clashing with Kyle Fans just want to see riders performing as they should I fully understand that - machinery issues aren’t something that fans should have to worry about, but just saying when your lucks out, your lucks out. I get your point but it started from the Ben fund with his exhaust falling off . His approach is clearly unprofessional people make the same excuses for him every week . Answer me this why is it him every single week ? that is not just luck its having a very poor approach . 41 heats and 10 meetings is not a little run of bad luck surely .At what point would you say its more than luck ? Edited May 30, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Like I said in earlier post I fully understand your frustration and annoyance. Not trying to make excuses as things need to be turned round PDQ. Just saying where I’m in regular contact with him, I can assure you he’s as *****d off about things as you and other fans are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Read an interview in SS with Wajtkneckt a few weeks ago. Said he has problems switching from grasstrack(?) to speedway, and that it takes him a few rides to get back into the hang of things with speedway. I don't know how often he does grasstrack, but surely coming out and saying something like that isn't the best policy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: Read an interview in SS with Wajtkneckt a few weeks ago. Said he has problems switching from grasstrack(?) to speedway, and that it takes him a few rides to get back into the hang of things with speedway. I don't know how often he does grasstrack, but surely coming out and saying something like that isn't the best policy? A very poor excuse ….imo I have a solution? get Ulrich to buy Zach's machinery ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 9:26 AM, GiveusaB said: Agreed! However, looking at the forecast, if it's correct? I predict another Rain-Off!? On 5/29/2019 at 5:41 PM, GiveusaB said: I'm surprised its even going ahead? hasn't stopped raining/drizzling since 1pm.....prepare for a mud bath! These two comments annoyed me at the time they were made so decided to wait until I commented on them. Given we are trying to attract people to come to speedway I dont think that these comments were particularly useful. Also they were wildly inaccurate. In fact when I arrived at the track at 6:30 the track was being watered! Did these and other comments have an effect on the crowd? I have no way of knowing and if Im honest maybe not in this instance. However one thing I know for certain. They will not have helped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 10:36 AM, GiveusaB said: Congratulations to the promotion for getting/putting the meeting on last night .... they had some stick the other week and now they deserve some credit (imo) The truth is the meeting was never in danger despite some of the doom and gloom posts some put out. In fact they had to water the track before the start. As for the meeting? It was surprisingly quite good up until about heat 9/10.....then the track became a 'one line' circuit.....hence Adam's 2 defeats.... The track did become one line as you say. But this was entirely due to the rain that came down at that point as the suddenly very slow times showed. I think it was a shame and stopped the small chance we had of overcoming the deficit. I know that Easty where worried up to that poing As for the track itself? it appeared to have more shale on it, but I don't think that it was evenly spread? (but I'm no expert) You are right that the track had more shale. We have finally got hold of some and its being put on slowly each week so that no bad reactions happen. In Terry we have a very experienced track man and its showing. As for not being evenly spread? Not sure why you would think that but it looked perfect from where I stood (and I stood on the track.) Its a double edged sword for me of course. Raking it back has suddenly become much more difficult! Bring on Sheffield....I think we will do them! Oh yes!!! Some have made comments about Zach and I just thought I would point out that at times Zach has been the only rider for us to cheer on. He has top scored for us on three different occasions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, guitar_art said: These two comments annoyed me at the time they were made so decided to wait until I commented on them. Given we are trying to attract people to come to speedway I dont think that these comments were particularly useful. Also they were wildly inaccurate. In fact when I arrived at the track at 6:30 the track was being watered! Did these and other comments have an effect on the crowd? I have no way of knowing and if Im honest maybe not in this instance. However one thing I know for certain. They will not have helped. 100% Spot on it really annoys me if it puts off 1 person its 1 too many . We need as many people though the gates as possible and the weather doom and gloomers do not help at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, guitar_art said: These two comments annoyed me at the time they were made so decided to wait until I commented on them. Given we are trying to attract people to come to speedway I dont think that these comments were particularly useful. Also they were wildly inaccurate. In fact when I arrived at the track at 6:30 the track was being watered! Did these and other comments have an effect on the crowd? I have no way of knowing and if Im honest maybe not in this instance. However one thing I know for certain. They will not have helped. If you read the first post about the weather correctly, you will see that I stated 'If the forecast is correct' ??? the Met Office make the forecast, not me ! Also, we called the Leicester meeting OFF because of the forecast and didn't wait to see what effect the weather had? which, we all know was fine and racing could've gone ahead! I mention the weather purely for the information of an away supporter travelling all the way from Eastbourne??? if my comments about the weather put any B'ham fans off, then they're not really fans at all and I must have the same influence as Simon Cowell does when swaying voters on BGT ! LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: 100% Spot on it really annoys me if it puts off 1 person its 1 too many . We need as many people though the gates as possible and the weather doom and gloomers do not help at all. Absolute rubbish!!! People will make their own mind up whether to attend or not ??? Being a 'dead rubber' meeting is the likely cause of a low attendance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Absolute rubbish!!! People will make their own mind up whether to attend or not ??? Being a 'dead rubber' meeting is the likely cause of a low attendance! Well i disagree . People who are unsure if there attending or not only need a small factor to swing it into a no. Constant doom and gloom weather reports will have some peoples mind up early . If people "will make their own mind up " why do you then put it up for the benefit of Eastbourne fans ?? are they incapable of making their own mind up ? are they incapable of reading a weather forecast ? hmmm seems odd . Myself and others think it is extremely unhelpful can you not accept that ? I can accept the fact you disagree but i do not understand the need to keep updating everyone on poor forecasts . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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