LisaColette Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I'm afraid Doyle can't call the meeting off, that's why they needed to talk to the ref. Doyle doesn't care about the paying public. If he thought it was really dangerous no way would he ride. More like no one was prepared to follow him in it. Prob get fined/suspended for not riding, Batch already been down that road before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gavan said: oh dear cage rattled Think its pretty darn obvious that both tracks were bad dont think you had to be there to know that Even the Swindon riders are saying the Swindon track was awful...........the Poole boys just dont say anything..pleased they got the majority of the points The difference is that the Poole track has been garbage for a long time and its now got to the point where it is dangerous. Swindon is a new track and has teething problems.....but i would bet which track will be sorted out first. What you need to realise is that people get the annoyance with the same band of Poole dunces who claim everything is fine Many many Swindon fans are annoyed and have been condemning the state of the Swindon track...........they are speedway fans you see and they understand the bigger picture When you have downright trolls and fools trying to tell everyone Pooles track is fine then thats when you get the uprising on here Unfortunately Shovlar thinks its funny to troll........its his sad little life and his choice We then get people saying Musielek 'laid it down'............headlong into the fence hardly laying it down Swindon riders 'overriding' Absolute garbage comments from supposed adults Poole have their of decent fans] Unfortunately you have 4 or 5 (more than any other club) that just drag the name down on here You seem keen to jump on any defensive bandwagon going Swindon should have done what Doyle wanted and pulled out at heat 7 then maybe Poole would have got the repercussion they deserved I don't recall any Poole fan - Shovlar and me included - saying that the Poole track is fine? It isn't. As for agreeing to go on after heat 7 for the fans - if the track had been heavy and wet and 'dangerous' then the two captains would have called the ref down to express their view and get the meeting called off. As others have said, at no time was the ref called down and at no time did any Poole riders or guest say it was too dangerous to continue. Musielak's withdrawal was pre planned. He was intending to slide off in heat 3 - everyone in the pits knew it - but unfortunately it ended far more spectacularly than he intended. I'm hearing Adam Ellis may be guesting on Thursday................!! Edited May 28, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) What would happen if the riders had said, ref this track is really dangerous we are not riding on it? We know the ref very often takes the riders opinions about safety after some rain. The words of riders safety is always used normally,,, Edited May 28, 2019 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Baldyman said: What would happen if the riders had said, ref this track is really dangerous we are not riding on it? We know the ref very often takes the riders opinions about safety after some rain. The words of riders safety is always used normally,,, If the riders had refused to ride the meeting would have been abandoned. Although the Poole track is in desperate need of being relaid and given fresh shale, it really wasn’t as bad as those that were not there have made out. Klindt has said on Twitter that the Swindon track last night was worse than Wimborne Road. Both tracks were not acceptable and I spent £42 on entry with program and £25 fuel and it certainly wasn’t value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: If the riders had refused to ride the meeting would have been abandoned. Although the Poole track is in desperate need of being relaid and given fresh shale, it really wasn’t as bad as those that were not there have made out. Klindt has said on Twitter that the Swindon track last night was worse than Wimborne Road. Both tracks were not acceptable and I spent £42 on entry with program and £25 fuel and it certainly wasn’t value for money. It’s very interesting to note that neither promotions have bothered to defend or, apologise for their poorly prepared/maintained tracks. It will be interesting to see how they run for cover if, god forbid a rider gets badly injured because they have failed to carry out a “due diligence” process on adequate facilities preparation and maintenance. Lots of innuendo and “chatter” about who has said what to who on what will be done but, it will be actions that count. Sounds a bit like a parallel universe to Brexit, doesn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: If the riders had refused to ride the meeting would have been abandoned. Although the Poole track is in desperate need of being relaid and given fresh shale, it really wasn’t as bad as those that were not there have made out. Klindt has said on Twitter that the Swindon track last night was worse than Wimborne Road. Both tracks were not acceptable and I spent £42 on entry with program and £25 fuel and it certainly wasn’t value for money. I was at Poole and it was diabolical, again. It really is time that the promotion sought some Professional help in sorting this problem out. The problem has been with us for far too long and we shouldn’t be spending time defending a rubbish track... Poole Stadium is a very good venue, badly let down by an appalling track which is the responsibility of PSL Directors and Promoters.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Aviator said: I was at Poole and it was diabolical, again. It really is time that the promotion sought some Professional help in sorting this problem out. The problem has been with us for far too long and we shouldn’t be spending time defending a rubbish track... Poole Stadium is a very good venue, badly let down by an appalling track which is the responsibility of PSL Directors and Promoters.. No one is defending the track. It needs a major overhaul from the base up. Get the bumps out with a laser blade then get some good quality clay based shale down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) On 5/28/2019 at 3:04 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Me thinks Swindon fans are trying to deflect from an abject day when they were expected to take 7 points. Last night I was more than happy to come away from Swindon with 2 points. A draw was never predicted and without our main man either. A great result for Poole. Sure Swindon lost ~doyle due to the Swindon track but it’s not our fault. I don’t believe a single Pirates fan left Blunsdon disappointed with the result. Next up Peterborough and hopefully another 3 points. Bet365 the biggest bookmakers on the planet made Poole favourites at Blunsdon and yet by some miracle against all odds Poole salvaged a draw. To quote Bollo from the Mighty Boosh............'Whats that? did you say Phil Collins?' Edited May 30, 2019 by The Weasel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I thought that work had been done at least twice in recent years to sort out the problems or have I imagined that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, Aces51 said: I thought that work had been done at least twice in recent years to sort out the problems or have I imagined that. Work has been done but not the work that needs to be done. The base is knackered I would suggest, and needs relaying. Until that happens everything in between will be a temp fix and isn't actually solving the problem. Whilst I understand there will be a significant cost implication, in the end Poole speedway are bringing the sport into disrepute and if there was a correct and proper process from the governing body they would be fined and instructed to fix the issues. As it is, it's all a bit jobs for the boys and so Poole can carry on regardless. Its poor and on a grander scale really highlights the unprofessionalism across the sport as a whole. The real shame of it all is that Wimbourne Road was once, and still can be, a great speedway track. It's a great shape and has stood the evolution of the bikes. Unfortunately on here we have a few pillocks who see no wrong and will push the mantra until their dying day. I really hope the majority of Poole supporters can see and understand the problem, it'll not solve anything in the end, but its nice to know there is still some sanity in the human race down there. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 19 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Very happy with 2 points actually! Which 2 Swindon riders did Poole's track take away? Doyle injured his arm at Swindon when he hit the first bend hole and Musialak was carrying the injury from previous meetings - he jarred it again in Poland - and was unfit to ride when he turned up at Poole. He was only sent out for one race when it was decided in advance that he would lay the bike down and withdraw from the meeting so that Swindon could use IRR, otherwise they wouldn't have a facility for him!!! It was the talk of the pits before the start!! Fact not opinion! Expected better of you Skidder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Getting more and more like 1960s TV wrestling. Grunt and groan all for show and the result well fiddled everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: Expected better of you Skidder. with lampart out all ready why would they only ride with 5 riders how would they have covered the extra rides ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, ray c said: with lampart out all ready why would they only ride with 5 riders how would they have covered the extra rides ? A guest and R/R as they did for the evening meeting. No reason at all for what Skidder is putting forward as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, ray c said: with lampart out all ready why would they only ride with 5 riders how would they have covered the extra rides ? But apparently Rosco told Tobi to stay to home. If that's the case Swindon would have had a guest for him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: But apparently Rosco told Tobi to stay to home. If that's the case Swindon would have had a guest for him.. would he have had a certificate then as rode in Poland on sunday water under the bridge we won any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, ray c said: would he have had a certificate then as rode in Poland on sunday water under the bridge we won any way Yes we won at home,drew away, time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 7:50 PM, Skidder1 said: I don't recall any Poole fan - Shovlar and me included - saying that the Poole track is fine? It isn't. As for agreeing to go on after heat 7 for the fans - if the track had been heavy and wet and 'dangerous' then the two captains would have called the ref down to express their view and get the meeting called off. As others have said, at no time was the ref called down and at no time did any Poole riders or guest say it was too dangerous to continue. Musielak's withdrawal was pre planned. He was intending to slide off in heat 3 - everyone in the pits knew it - but unfortunately it ended far more spectacularly than he intended. I'm hearing Adam Ellis may be guesting on Thursday................!! Adam is pleasing his big sponsor down Poole maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Intending to slide off in heat 3.....? Yes. I’m sure a rider will prepare his bike, drive to a meeting, pay his mechanic and then risk jarring an already injured shoulder and have to clean all his bike / kit off afterwards 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: Intending to slide off in heat 3.....? Yes. I’m sure a rider will prepare his bike, drive to a meeting, pay his mechanic and then risk jarring an already injured shoulder and have to clean all his bike / kit off afterwards Not forgetting the early flight in, night in a hotel, early flight back. Sounds like a great pre-planned event to slide off in heat 3 so he can withdraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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