Ivan Mauger. Belle Vue. 1969/72

[steve roberts]

10 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Can't disagree with that Addio he was a real stylist a gentleman to, i have never heard anyone say a bad word about him.Like yourself i only see Mirac ride four or five times but he was a terrific rider he rode great lines and he never looked the quickest but his trackcraft was as good as anybody.One of my biggest regrets was i never got to see Craven or Knutsson ride but both would rank high on anyone's alltime great list.

I saw Ronnie ride at Poole during his last season in the UK and he was superlative. Never saw Peter Craven ride but I do know that his track record at Cowley (63 secs) stood for over a decade and was only lowered when the track was shortened! Another rider I wished I could have seen was Igor Plechanov who had, if I recall, two outstanding World Final performances against his name.

[Sidney the robin]

13 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

I saw Ronnie ride at Poole during his last season in the UK and he was superlative. Never saw Peter Craven ride but I do know that his track record at Cowley (63 secs) stood for over a decade and was only lowered when the track was shortened! Another rider I wished I could have seen was Igor Plechanov who had, if I recall, two outstanding World Final performances against his name.

I did see Plechanov ride  once at Swindon when he rode for Russia cant remember it though.I did notice Steve that Jerzy S rode the once at Oxford!!!! also he rode at Belle Vue and Halifax in 1971 i think was he deserved winner in 73 Steve what is your take.? Also Steve did you see Jim Airey ride in the 1973 series.??

Edited May 20, 2019 by Sidney the robin

[OveFundinFan]

27 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

I saw Ronnie ride at Poole during his last season in the UK and he was superlative. Never saw Peter Craven ride but I do know that his track record at Cowley (63 secs) stood for over a decade and was only lowered when the track was shortened! Another rider I wished I could have seen was Igor Plechanov who had, if I recall, two outstanding World Final performances against his name.

Peter craven held the track record at Hyde Road for ages, 69 and 4 /5’s seconds (yep that how they expressed it in those days), he died in 1963, can’t remember when he set the time, but it held well into the mid 1970’s. I never thought it was going to get beat, but when the 4 valvers came along in 76ish it was lowered a few times.

i got to see Plechanov, Samorodov, Kurilenko,  and all the rest of USSR team at Hyde Road as well as the years Igor and Boris did well at Wembley. Very exciting seeing them on their ESO’s with handlebars clipped to the fork legs. And the 

The Poles came and did tours as well, all the oldies like Pawel Waloszek, Anotoni Woryna, then into the Plech, Jancarz years, all the weird names like Pogoselski, Glucklich.

Amazing times, amazing memories.

Edited May 20, 2019 by OveFundinFan

[Sidney the robin]

1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said:

Peter craven held the track record at Hyde Road for ages, 69 and 4 /5’s seconds (yep that how they expressed it in those days), he died in 1963, can’t remember when he set the time, but it held well into the mid 1970’s. I never thought it was going to get beat, but when the 4 valvers came along in 76ish it was lowered a few times.

i got to see Plechanov, Samorodov, Kurilenko,  and all the rest of USSR team at Hyde Road as well as the years Igor and Boris did well at Wembley. Very exciting seeing them on their ESO’s with handlebars clipped to the fork legs. And the 

The Poles came and did tours as well, all the oldies like Pawel Waloszek, Anotoni Woryna, then into the Plech, Jancarz years, all the weird names like Pogoselski, Glucklich.

Amazing times, amazing memories.

I loved watching the Russians and the Poles the thing that always stayed with me was  looking in the pits and the Russians looking like they all had bikes that were track spares .They  were always great value though great days indeed.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Sidney the robin

[Grand Central]

1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said:

Peter craven held the track record at Hyde Road for ages, 69 and 4 /5’s seconds (yep that how they expressed it in those days), he died in 1963, can’t remember when he set the time, but it held well into the mid 1970’s. I never thought it was going to get beat, but when the 4 valvers came along in 76ish it was lowered a few times.

Craven set that time in 1958

And Ivan equalled it in August 1970 and shaved a fifth off it in October that year.

That stood until 1975 when Peter Collins took it down to 69.4.

But in July 1976 PC smashed it ... 67 dead on the four valve and that time was not lowered at all throughout the seventies through to 1983.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Grand Central

[steve roberts]

12 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

I did see Plechanov ride  once at Swindon when he rode for Russia cant remember it though.I did notice Steve that Jerzy S rode the once at Oxford!!!! also he rode at Belle Vue and Halifax in 1971 i think was he deserved winner in 73 Steve what is your take.? Also Steve did you see Jim Airey ride in the 1973 series.??

That's right, Sid, in 1973 when he didn't get any further than the first bend and on falling remained trapped under the kickboard!

[cityrebel]

I was fortunate to have seen Ronnie ride on a weekly basis at Plough Lane, plus a few Dons aways from 1969 -72. He was a supreme stylist and a brilliant team rider. He is without a doubt, one of my favourite riders of all time.