TotallyHonestJohn Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, *JJ said: It is hardly the place of the Speedway Star, or the BSPA, or the SCB, to behave like a silly woman on BSF, and assume, without the slightest evidence, that a promoter is lying. Honestly Being a "Tad" misogynistic there mind JJ aren't we? As this is predominantly a male run sport why are they not behaving "like a silly man"? and I appreciate the post was started by a female which is beside the point as a woman can behave like a silly man? can't they? May be if there were a few more women in the sport at the top end (management committee) (or as promoters) it may be run more professionally rather than "like a select little boys club" as it appears to be being run at present; as believe me there are just as many "Silly Men" out there as there are "Silly Women" if not more!!! Sheffield and Somerset for two have women promoters (formally Workington as well) who have more common sense and integrity than many of their male counterparts doing the same role that is for sure... Whoever starts a post male or female if they believe they have a valid point, question or query how ever daft you may feel it is we surely need to respect? defend? their right to put over that question not deride them? Regards THJ Edited May 16, 2019 by TotallyHonestJohn Missed out word 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Fromafar said: These scenarios are bein create by the riders just using and abusing any clubs that they can get a meeting from.GB is low on their priority.Its not the riders fault but the failure of BSpA to address the rider problems being created.Any rider that can’t commit to GB fixtures should be told where to go IMO.Every season SAME PROBLEMS. A similar scenario, tonight , in the Premiership. It was agreed to change our race nights, from last year, to Monday & Thursday this year. Tuesday is for Sweden. Tonight, it was agreed that a Swedish fixture has priority over our Premiership Supporters Cup. So obviously, our PSC is a "mickey mouse" league & not justified to have priority on our race night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 I would agree with those who say the promotion should have told the truth but BSPA rules mean the truth gets you a fine and lying does not. Now work out what is best for the promotion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chris116 said: I would agree with those who say the promotion should have told the truth but BSPA rules mean the truth gets you a fine and lying does not. Now work out what is best for the promotion! With a potential inquest to follow and fans who will refuse to line the pockets of promotors who treat their own fans as idiots, I would of settled for telling the truth and the fine. Better still, how about signing Adam so his first meeting in Birmingham colours he could actually attend? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, *JJ said: It is hardly the place of the Speedway Star, or the BSPA, or the SCB, to behave like a silly woman on BSF, and assume, without the slightest evidence, that a promoter is lying. "Like a silly woman " go on explain this ? showing yourself up for exactly what you are .How embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Najjer said: With a potential inquest to follow and fans who will refuse to line the pockets of promotors who treat their own fans as idiots, I would of settled for telling the truth and the fine. Better still, how about signing Adam so his first meeting in Birmingham colours he could actually attend? http://www.birmingham-speedway.com/news.php?extend.2804 8th May meeting, Birmingham v Berwick, was rained off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: http://www.birmingham-speedway.com/news.php?extend.2804 8th May meeting, Birmingham v Berwick, was rained off Fair enough - Makes the electrical situation even more fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyOne Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris116 said: I would agree with those who say the promotion should have told the truth but BSPA rules mean the truth gets you a fine and lying does not. Now work out what is best for the promotion! Well, it depends which club you are. When Belle Vue (under a previous promotion) fabricated a burst water pipe because Zagar had missed his flight, they got hauled over the coals, hit with a massive fine, and weren't allowed to call another meeting off for 2 years without SCB permission. Now that Birmingham have done the same and fabricated a "electrical fault" because Adam Ellis was missing, will they suffer the same punishment from the SCB? (Although there is a precedent that when Poole did the same thing they got away scot-free.) But not sure why this thread is titled "F.A.O. Phil Rising", surely it should be "F.A.O. Neil Vatcher"? He's the one you should all be addressing your concerns to. Edited May 16, 2019 by CottonOn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Can someone please explain to me who exactly Phil Rising is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyOne Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Can someone please explain to me who exactly Phil Rising is ? The major shareholder and director of Pinegen Ltd who publish "Speedway Star". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Richard great idea let’s add another rule into the manual. As if there ain’t enough already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, GiveusaB said: EXACTLY! The decision to postpone the meeting didn't affect anyone........everybody had advanced notice? Call yourself speedway fans ??? maybe be just an envious Coventry supporter ??? Affected Ulrich Ostergaard who committed to his UK club and declined a potential Danish booking! #justsaying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Richard Weston said: ..., not the first nor the last to do such a thing. A suitable epitaph to adorn the tombstone of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Unusual for one size to fit all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Can someone please explain to me who exactly Phil Rising is ? He used to be the editor of the Speedway Star magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory peck Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 hours ago, GiveusaB said: EXACTLY! We then have to hear about unhappy so called supporters who want the management/promotion punished for an obvious business decision? We're already in a financially difficult situation with low attendances and rising costs etc....so why try and put another nail in the future of another speedway club??? Beggars belief! The decision to postpone the meeting didn't affect anyone........everybody had advanced notice? It's the so called vigilante supporters who will close another track down, not the 'common sense' of a benevolent promotional speedway operation! Call yourself speedway fans ??? maybe be just an envious Coventry supporter ??? Seems Mr argos likes to stir the s##t,and wait for a reaction,mocked Workington demise with derogatory remarks, clearly not a speedway fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted May 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, gregory peck said: Seems Mr argos likes to stir the s##t,and wait for a reaction,mocked Workington demise with derogatory remarks, clearly not a speedway fan I’ve been a Speedway fan for over 30 years, not supporting any particular Team, Just loving the sport, but not anymore, I just couldn’t take any more of the lies and nonsense that as taken over the sport. As for Workington I stand by my post 100%, Speedway at Workington is finished and will not return, In my view Re my question to the Speedway Star, The current situation at Birmingham is typical of the current state of Speedway, We all know the reason last nights meeting was cancelled was because Mr Ellis was riding in Denmark, (he did very well scoring 9 points) There was nothing wrong with the Electric's at Birmingham, as confirmed to me by the Stadium, Supporters should be told the truth, the SCB/BSPA will do nothing, or should it be just brushed under the carpet, In my view the Press should look into this for the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Argos said: I’ve been a Speedway fan for over 30 years, not supporting any particular Team, Just loving the sport, but not anymore, I just couldn’t take any more of the lies and nonsense that as taken over the sport. As for Workington I stand by my post 100%, Speedway at Workington is finished and will not return, In my view Re my question to the Speedway Star, The current situation at Birmingham is typical of the current state of Speedway, We all know the reason last nights meeting was cancelled was because Mr Ellis was riding in Denmark, (he did very well scoring 9 points) There was nothing wrong with the Electric's at Birmingham, as confirmed to me by the Stadium, Supporters should be told the truth, the SCB/BSPA will do nothing, or should it be just brushed under the carpet, In my view the Press should look into this for the fans. there's always one !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Argos said: I’ve been a Speedway fan for over 30 years, not supporting any particular Team, Just loving the sport, but not anymore, I just couldn’t take any more of the lies and nonsense that as taken over the sport. As for Workington I stand by my post 100%, Speedway at Workington is finished and will not return, In my view Re my question to the Speedway Star, The current situation at Birmingham is typical of the current state of Speedway, We all know the reason last nights meeting was cancelled was because Mr Ellis was riding in Denmark, (he did very well scoring 9 points) There was nothing wrong with the Electric's at Birmingham, as confirmed to me by the Stadium, Supporters should be told the truth, the SCB/BSPA will do nothing, or should it be just brushed under the carpet, In my view the Press should look into this for the fans. This is the third time i have asked you WHO ARE THESE TRAINERS YOU HAVE CLAIMED TO OF SPOKE TO ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Argos said: There was nothing wrong with the Electric's at Birmingham, as confirmed to me by the Stadium, Supporters should be told the truth, the SCB/BSPA will do nothing, or should it be just brushed under the carpet, In my view the Press should look into this for the fans. Who exactly at the stadium confirmed this then ? You Argos are a complete liar and have zero substance to back up your claims. You may be correct but you are guessing you have spoke to absolutely no one. This thread is more to have another dig at Lawrence Rogers (who i am no fan of) who we know you hate. But this decision has nothing to do with him it would be in no way his call to make . Edited May 17, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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