Argos Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Phill we as supporters are Sick to Death of being told lies by Promotors, Therefore could the Speedway Star please do your own investigation into tonight’s Fixture Cancellation at Birmingham, I have spoken to the Stadium, I have spoken to Dog Trainers and they have all confirmed there is no Electricity Problem at Perry Barr, Is it not your duty to look into this matter and inform us your customers your come ? I have been a subscriber to the Star for many many years, So as a loyal customer please find out the truth of the matter, Maybe Lawrence Rogers is telling the Truth, Maybe not, but surely we deserve to find out, and your our only hope as the SCB don’t seem to care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Argos said: Phill we as supporters are Sick to Death of being told lies by Promotors, Therefore could the Speedway Star please do your own investigation into tonight’s Fixture Cancellation at Birmingham, I have spoken to the Stadium, I have spoken to Dog Trainers and they have all confirmed there is no Electricity Problem at Perry Barr, Is it not your duty to look into this matter and inform us your customers your come ? I have been a subscriber to the Star for many many years, So as a loyal customer please find out the truth of the matter, Maybe Lawrence Rogers is telling the Truth, Maybe not, but surely we deserve to find out, and your our only hope as the SCB don’t seem to care. to start it makes no sense and it is not his duty he is an editor of a speedway magazine not the FBI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, homer said: to start it makes no sense and it is not his duty he is an editor of a speedway magazine not the FBI He's not even editor of the Speedway Star ... although he used to be. Why isn't the OP demanding the same investigation from the Birmingham Mail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Argos said: Phill we as supporters are Sick to Death of being told lies by Promotors, Therefore could the Speedway Star please do your own investigation into tonight’s Fixture Cancellation at Birmingham, I have spoken to the Stadium, I have spoken to Dog Trainers and they have all confirmed there is no Electricity Problem at Perry Barr, Is it not your duty to look into this matter and inform us your customers your come ? I have been a subscriber to the Star for many many years, So as a loyal customer please find out the truth of the matter, Maybe Lawrence Rogers is telling the Truth, Maybe not, but surely we deserve to find out, and your our only hope as the SCB don’t seem to care. If you dont mind me asking what trainers have you spoke too ? Excuse my ignorance but who is Phil Rising ? Not sure you can Rogers for this one. Edited May 15, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, George Dodds said: He's not even editor of the Speedway Star ... although he used to be. Why isn't the OP demanding the same investigation from the Birmingham Mail? i stand corrected but if the SCB are not interested this is dead in the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 My guess as to what'll happen... 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 This has all the hallmarks of a promotion losing money and looking to quit. Had this with my team in 2018. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 hours ago, uk_martin said: My guess as to what'll happen... We won't be able to get through the door soon. That carpet will be nearer the celing than the floor! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Shadders said: This has all the hallmarks of a promotion losing money and looking to quit. Had this with my team in 2018. Not sure I agree with this statement? I think it's the promoters using common sense and not wasting money by putting on an expensive farce ? (No fans turning up due to a very weakened team) If they were thinking of quitting, then why make 2 (positive)team changes so early in the season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure I agree with this statement? I think it's the promoters using common sense and not wasting money by putting on an expensive farce ? (No fans turning up due to a very weakened team) If they were thinking of quitting, then why make 2 (positive)team changes so early in the season? I hope you’re right and I’m wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: Thought about this issue quite a lot and it looks like this: Birmingham see they have very weak team. Realise numbers of supporters will be well down Deduces they will lose money Decides to find reason to pull the meeting Does so. Really, you can understand why they took the decision but not the way they went about it. However, not the first nor the last to do such a thing. EXACTLY! We then have to hear about unhappy so called supporters who want the management/promotion punished for an obvious business decision? We're already in a financially difficult situation with low attendances and rising costs etc....so why try and put another nail in the future of another speedway club??? Beggars belief! The decision to postpone the meeting didn't affect anyone........everybody had advanced notice? It's the so called vigilante supporters who will close another track down, not the 'common sense' of a benevolent promotional speedway operation! Call yourself speedway fans ??? maybe be just an envious Coventry supporter ??? Edited May 16, 2019 by GiveusaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 This is OTT However, IF The Promotion had come out and told the truth, they would have a far more conciliatory hearing and understanding from supporters of Birmingham and other Clubs. This made up baloney is the issue, not the postponement itself. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, HGould said: This is OTT However, IF The Promotion had come out and told the truth, they would have a far more conciliatory hearing and understanding from supporters of Birmingham and other Clubs. This made up baloney is the issue, not the postponement itself. I think we've already gone over this part? If they'd called it off for a so called 'weakened' team, then they'd have surely been fined or at the very least reprimanded ? (i.e official meetings/hearings, costing time/money) It's starting to get boring now ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I think we've already gone over this part? If they'd called it off for a so called 'weakened' team, then they'd have surely been fined or at the very least reprimanded ? (i.e official meetings/hearings, costing time/money) It's starting to get boring now ..... The truth is always the right way and we have been fed a load of bull. If you are happy to call the truth boring then that's up to you. As a lifelong Brummie supporter and regular home and away I am not happy with being fobbed off, I prefer the truth, and I will make my feelings known to the Promotion in a polite but firm manner when I get the chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 The only surprise is that new promoters, who promised a different way of doing things, make the same mistakes ( perhaps knowingly ) as so many before them. Hiding behind dubious excuses that might prove to be lies, is the way to erode whatever support you have gathered to date. Tell the whole truth, tell it promptly and fully and you may well avoid the worst of the fallout. Going the other way is to enter a storm of criticism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HGould said: The truth is always the right way and we have been fed a load of bull. If you are happy to call the truth boring then that's up to you. As a lifelong Brummie supporter and regular home and away I am not happy with being fobbed off, I prefer the truth, and I will make my feelings known to the Promotion in a polite but firm manner when I get the chance. Correct sir , If they are worried about losing cash fair enough but do not treat us loyal fans who go everyweek like idiots. A little bit of respect please. Oh and i will bet you Argos the person who started the thread with some bold statements will NOT answer my previously asked question ? Why you ask ? its because he has spoke to no such trainers at Perry Barr he has made it up . He will probably say he does not want to reveal there identity . Edited May 16, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: EXACTLY! We then have to hear about unhappy so called supporters who want the management/promotion punished for an obvious business decision? We're already in a financially difficult situation with low attendances and rising costs etc....so why try and put another nail in the future of another speedway club??? Beggars belief! The decision to postpone the meeting didn't affect anyone........everybody had advanced notice? It's the so called vigilante supporters who will close another track down, not the 'common sense' of a benevolent promotional speedway operation! Call yourself speedway fans ??? maybe be just an envious Coventry supporter ??? Love the term 'vigilante supporters'................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 These scenarios are bein create by the riders just using and abusing any clubs that they can get a meeting from.GB is low on their priority.Its not the riders fault but the failure of BSpA to address the rider problems being created.Any rider that can’t commit to GB fixtures should be told where to go IMO.Every season SAME PROBLEMS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 It is hardly the place of the Speedway Star, or the BSPA, or the SCB, to behave like a silly woman on BSF, and assume, without the slightest evidence, that a promoter is lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, waytogo28 said: The only surprise is that new promoters, who promised a different way of doing things, make the same mistakes ( perhaps knowingly ) as so many before them. Hiding behind dubious excuses that might prove to be lies, is the way to erode whatever support you have gathered to date. Tell the whole truth, tell it promptly and fully and you may well avoid the worst of the fallout. Going the other way is to enter a storm of criticism. Correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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