SPEEDY69 Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The thing is, I think Lambert is riding equipment 'on the cheap' in the Premiership. What we watched in the SON and his scoring in the Premiership just doesn't add up. We'll see this weekend if he's on the pace with Woffinden and Zmarzlik in the GP, if so, King's Lynn surely have to ask questions. Nope, don't buy that. He is well set up but is not yet a consistent starter. Been poor several times this season so far, nothing to do with equipment. He will come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: We'll see this weekend if he's on the pace with Woffinden and Zmarzlik in the GP, if so, King's Lynn surely have to ask questions. What makes you think he'll be riding in the Warsaw GP? Is it confirmed that Janowski or Doyle (or another rider) isn't riding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Wolves is a tough place to go and they have a good side this year so 39 points isn’t the end of the world but when your bottom three score that well it’s disappointing not to come away with something. Lambert not making consistent starts in any league this year at the moment compared to last year hence his scores, needs to get it sorted ASAP. Hope the team can bounce back on Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Col said: What makes you think he'll be riding in the Warsaw GP? Is it confirmed that Janowski or Doyle (or another rider) isn't riding? He is in for hancock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Dont worry. The real Lambert will show up on Thursday at NSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: The thing is, I think Lambert is riding equipment 'on the cheap' in the Premiership. What we watched in the SON and his scoring in the Premiership just doesn't add up. We'll see this weekend if he's on the pace with Woffinden and Zmarzlik in the GP, if so, King's Lynn surely have to ask questions. Why do they need to ask questions?As Bagpuss said he isn't making the starts consistently in any league this season.What i've seen of him this season he is his usual self and always full of effort even when missing the gate.Can't believe how fickle fans can be,especially ones that don't watch the effort being put in and go solely on scores that said riders have amounted. Edited May 14, 2019 by tellboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, g13webb said: There can be no excuses, when a SGP rider only scores 5 and don't win a race, one has to question his application. When you're a one man team, then this man has to perform..... Well done Rory for giving 100% every single race... You make him out to be an established rider in the SGP,he's still a youngster who is bound to be inconsistent.Listening to the radio commentary Lambert too gave a 100% in his races busting a gut to overtake.It was a night where he failed to gate,and as a couple of Wolves fans have said a lot of it was gate and go,and one of the worst meetings Bruno had seen at Monmore unfortunately.That's how it goes and many SGP riders have done the same no doubt in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Mate I think you know by now that you need to take contributions from these two posters with a pinch of salt. I’m still laughing at the idea that those who score well give 100% and those who score poorly don’t if only speedway was that simple. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Where have I said Lambert is giving no effort I just believe he's using old equipment IN the Premiership and I wouldn't blame him. Riding Ekstraliga, Elitserien and the expense in being prepared for the SGP, I find it a little delusional that he'd have his best gear in England. Robert Lambert is riding on the cheap in the UK, I have no doubt about it. Doesn't mean though he's making no effort in his races, nobody has even suggested it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Lambert didn't make gates on Saturday but swept round the others which you can do at Belle Vue but not at Wolverhampton I think gating is his problem 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Not you, Mr Webb. It was forum bingo with him fawning over Rory and criticising Robert. People who were there have said it was a tough track to pass on so it’s not rocket science why their scores were so different and it’s nothing to do with effort or commitment. I can’t believe a young rider with the world at his feet with so much to race for and achieve this season would scrimp on kit anywhere. Too easy to blame machinery, he’s not quite on it yet especially his gating and his scores reflect that. If it were his bikes it’s more likely to be a change to try and go faster which isn’t working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Not you, Mr Webb. It was forum bingo with him fawning over Rory and criticising Robert. People who were there have said it was a tough track to pass on so it’s not rocket science why their scores were so different and it’s nothing to do with effort or commitment. I can’t believe a young rider with the world at his feet with so much to race for and achieve this season would scrimp on kit anywhere. Too easy to blame machinery, he’s not quite on it yet especially his gating and his scores reflect that. If it were his bikes it’s more likely to be a change to try and go faster which isn’t working. Robert Lambert is a business. He has to speculate to accumulate. He has to have a financial agenda for this and future seasons. He spending priority has an order and I could guarantee UK Speedway is bottom. 1. Ekstraliga 2. SGP / SON / Euro Championship 3. Elitserien 4. British Speedway I have no doubt at all his UK equipment has taken a back seat with his eyes firmly on the prize of being able to drop UK totally like Woffinden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) I expect he will drop the UK one day as speedway over here is only going one way. But I don’t see what good poor scores over here in slow bikes would do him, success breeds success. If he was scoring big in Sweden and Poland I’d agree with you perhaps but he ain’t....no doubt he’ll get it together soon. Going to be a massive learning curve on Saturday night especially if he carries on with the sluggish starts. Edited May 14, 2019 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Robert Lambert is a business. He has to speculate to accumulate. He has to have a financial agenda for this and future seasons. He spending priority has an order and I could guarantee UK Speedway is bottom. 1. Ekstraliga 2. SGP / SON / Euro Championship 3. Elitserien 4. British Speedway I have no doubt at all his UK equipment has taken a back seat with his eyes firmly on the prize of being able to drop UK totally like Woffinden. I think you are wrong, why should a rider use sub standard equipment and score less to make less money it makes no sense. His gating has never been his best asset so a poor score at Wolverhampton is of little relevance. If he scores poorly in his next meeting at Kings Lynn your argument would hold a little more water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, John Scrutton said: Lambert didn't make gates on Saturday but swept round the others which you can do at Belle Vue but not at Wolverhampton I think gating is his problem Wolverhampton is known for having passing lines so not strictly true, although last night has been described by some as having not much passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I think you are wrong, why should a rider use sub standard equipment and score less to make less money it makes no sense. His gating has never been his best asset so a poor score at Wolverhampton is of little relevance. If he scores poorly in his next meeting at Kings Lynn your argument would hold a little more water. Again, never said his equipment is substandard as such, just the same as last year as it went so well. He's saved money by cutting investment in UK Speedway. Why wouldn't or shouldn't he? To be a No1 in the UK you don't require anywhere near the investment you need for the likes of Poland, Sweden and the SGP's. People are extremely delusional if you think top rider's spend big bucks in the UK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 20 hours ago, stevebrum said: Jacob not wanting to come back (for now, or this year?) means that we need to act sooner rather than later imho. Funny how he has gone from being so desperate to return he supposedly concealed his injury... to now not wanting to return. Spin Spin Spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Again, never said his equipment is substandard as such, just the same as last year as it went so well. He's saved money by cutting investment in UK Speedway. Why wouldn't or shouldn't he? To be a No1 in the UK you don't require anywhere near the investment you need for the likes of Poland, Sweden and the SGP's. People are extremely delusional if you think top rider's spend big bucks in the UK. I don't consider myself extremely delusional but I do disagree with your points. Spending money on equipment does not equate to success. Ask Mr Cook how it worked out for him. A fast bike is not one that has simply had pots of money spent on it. A winning rider is not necessarily and maybe rarely the one who had spent the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 hours ago, bruno said: One of the worst meetings I've seen at monmore unfortunately Same thoughts here. The good news is that even with an interval the meeting finished at 21:12 . Thumbs up to all concerned with achieving this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Robert Lambert was riding substandard equipment to save costs in the UK, surely that is false economy? He needs to score points to earn money. So how would that be of benefit to him not investing in his gear for the UK ? Have a word with yaselfs guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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