maneacat Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I hope someone buys the Panthers pretty quick . No one seems happy. But Buster has spent 5 figures on shale and equipment so i'm thinking he had plans for the Showground, but after all the stick he's getting, I hope he sells the club asap. 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I hope someone buys the Panthers pretty quick . No one seems happy. But Buster has spent 5 figures on shale and equipment so i'm thinking he had plans for the Showground, but after all the stick he's getting, I hope he sells the club asap. Finally I can agree with you - needs a new owner ASAP, fresh input different track preparation and hopefully will be someone with a passion for the Club who the fans can relate to once more. Five figures these days is nothing and I really don’t understand what plans you can possibly think he had for the SHOWGROUND because unless he was to buy it (several million pounds would be required) it is only ever available as and when you work around all the other events the Society put on or contract it out for - for example I have been reliably told that the rerun of our rained off meeting V Belle Vue of 9th May can only be fitted in in September - this in a league of only 7 teams and we have many weeks coming up throughout the summer with no home fixtures! Edited May 15, 2019 by maneacat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 5:44 PM, Warriors said: Typical buster track thinking fast times is the B all, who really gives a stuff about track records, thinking the track must be good if the track record is broken, not giving any thoughts to entertainment and that's what any sport is about ENTERTAINMENT. I've heard him say that a slicker track is better for racing hence why Kings Lynn doesn't have the material on it like in the early 2000s. It's still grippy compared to others I guess mind .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 59 minutes ago, Trees said: I've heard him say that a slicker track is better for racing hence why Kings Lynn doesn't have the material on it like in the early 2000s. It's still grippy compared to others I guess mind .... I think Busters slick would be really grippy at most tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Even as a Stars fan i'm pleased to see the Witches doing well and by reports, the crowds are up as well. Always good to hear no matter if it is the enemy I think Louis may well buy the club back at some point. Maybe Louis didn't want to take the risk moving up, and he didn't have to. But this way it helps save the Prem and BT deal for now, and Chris hasn't took a risk. He may well stay in the Prem when he buys the club back, just a matter of when and not if I think. It seems to be working for both so far. I hope someone buys the Panthers pretty quick . No one seems happy. But Buster has spent 5 figures on shale and equipment so i'm thinking he had plans for the Showground, but after all the stick he's getting, I hope he sells the club asap. Save for how long? This year? Two? For years now every time the premiership gets into trouble they con teams from the Championship into moving up, they then get into trouble and move back down again or go bust. They try the same thing over and again and hope for a different outcome each time. This time no one was stupid enough to move up so Chapman did what he did to buy the league another year or two. Whilst I'm pleased that things are going well for Ipswich at the moment, I still think this will end badly... And I never thought I'd see the day when I'd be feeling sorry for Peterborough fans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Shrub said: Save for how long? This year? Two? For years now every time the premiership gets into trouble they con teams from the Championship into moving up, they then get into trouble and move back down again or go bust. They try the same thing over and again and hope for a different outcome each time. This time no one was stupid enough to move up so Chapman did what he did to buy the league another year or two. Whilst I'm pleased that things are going well for Ipswich at the moment, I still think this will end badly... And I never thought I'd see the day when I'd be feeling sorry for Peterborough fans Sadly I think you are right. It's just prolonging the inevitable 1 big league for a little longer. Buster is trying to save the top flight (if you can call it that anymore) and I guess he was hoping to make the 2 both viable Prem clubs with plenty of rivalry clashes bumping up the crowds, so that who ever does buy them would stay in the Prem maybe ? He is trying but he is set in his ways to say the least . I think Louis will have Ippo back within a season or 2, but not sure about the Panthers sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 10:43 PM, Shrub said: Well I've certainly had to eat my words because the Witches have done far better than I expected - still not convinced they will last the pace - and at the moment 'Ippo' do seem OK. However I think most Ipswich fans would rather the club was still owned by Louis in the Championship instead of by Chapman in Premiership. I’m much happier watching premiership speedway this season - would have preferred Louis to still be the owner and buster not involved but I understand why he couldn’t take all the financial risks himself at the time. He’s got a buy back clause so fingers crossed the season is successful and he’s able to justify the risk to take back full control! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, 89buttons said: I’m much happier watching premiership speedway this season - would have preferred Louis to still be the owner and buster not involved but I understand why he couldn’t take all the financial risks himself at the time. He’s got a buy back clause so fingers crossed the season is successful and he’s able to justify the risk to take back full control! Admittedly I've only been a couple of times this year such is my dissolution with the way the sport is run, and it sticks in the craw putting money in Chapman's pocket, but to me the racing was no better than the Championship; the usual follow the leader Ipswich fare. Regarding the buy back clause and the hope that a successful season will justify the risk, you're assuming there will still be a viable Elite League! It's bound to go t!ts up again, it always does. Louis wouldn't take the risk to move up as he knew it wasn't viable and Chapman only did it to buy the Elite league another year. The whole sport needs restructuring but it seems it ain't gonna happen with Chapman at the helm, he hasn't the ideas, ability or vision to do it and instead is happy to paper over the cracks. I realise that in the few posts I've made I probably come across as a miserable, negative old git but I do fear for the club's future. A major decision was made in haste and nobody seemed to be looking long term, it was all about keeping the top league alive for another year. Such hasty snap decisions rarely work out well in the end... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shrub said: Admittedly I've only been a couple of times this year such is my dissolution with the way the sport is run, and it sticks in the craw putting money in Chapman's pocket, but to me the racing was no better than the Championship; the usual follow the leader Ipswich fare. Regarding the buy back clause and the hope that a successful season will justify the risk, you're assuming there will still be a viable Elite League! It's bound to go t!ts up again, it always does. Louis wouldn't take the risk to move up as he knew it wasn't viable and Chapman only did it to buy the Elite league another year. The whole sport needs restructuring but it seems it ain't gonna happen with Chapman at the helm, he hasn't the ideas, ability or vision to do it and instead is happy to paper over the cracks. I realise that in the few posts I've made I probably come across as a miserable, negative old git but I do fear for the club's future. A major decision was made in haste and nobody seemed to be looking long term, it was all about keeping the top league alive for another year. Such hasty snap decisions rarely work out well in the end... Couldn’t disagree more. Respect your opinion though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 As I said, only been a couple of times based on what I saw there was little difference. Must have missed the better ones! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Shrub said: As I said, only been a couple of times based on what I saw there was little difference. Must have missed the better ones! Which two did you see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Which two did you see? Last night and swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 What people think is good or bad racing is all down to opinion,,, what they have seen before and where they normally see it. I dont think Ipswich will ever be winning any awards for most entertaining track. There are some that think last nights meeting and even the bank Holiday were brilliant and had fantastic racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Baldyman said: What people think is good or bad racing is all down to opinion,,, what they have seen before and where they normally see it. I dont think Ipswich will ever be winning any awards for most entertaining track. There are some that think last nights meeting and even the bank Holiday were brilliant and had fantastic racing. I doubt anyone would go that far Baldy. IMO they were probably the least entertaining of our home meetings so far, but they weren’t terrible. Mind you I thought the Swindon meeting was pretty good, which Shrub attended and thought was poor so like you say, everyone is going to have different opinions. Neither of the two away meetings I’ve attended this year have been better than anything I’ve seen at Foxhall. And I have to say, that goes for the majority of last year in the Championship too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 In no way do I think that racing in general was better 'back in the good old days' but I do think some tracks have suffered due to the nature of the modern bikes and Ipswich is one of them. Despite the commendable efforts to improve the track to me the racing is no better. Like Baldy said we would never have won any awards for most entertaining track but we are much further down the list than we once were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Does anyone know if the meetings are filmed this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Loose Diamond Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/12/2019 at 1:28 PM, Baldyman said: Sweating on the fitness of Lasse? Ha ha what rubbish,,,, much stronger with r r since he is now third in the averages. Unless they are sweating on him declaring himself fit,, which is what they don't want. We've got him now! He is not very good either. Not a patch on his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Not much use unless it's a big round track, and has never got any better from when he first arrived in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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