IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 40-38 said: You have to admit that some of this evidence really doesn't paint speedway in a good light. Especially the Belle Vue stuff just now. We all know the sport is on the brink and is on a downward trend, there's a whole forum dedicated to it here. Yes the sport is mismanaged, we all know that too, but a lot of the downturn is also due to tracks beings sold for development Edited September 21, 2023 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Looking at the site on Google earth I feel there's room for a Redcar/ Worky site AND some houses. Perhaps if BE were made to build a basic circuit in return for allowing a number of houses it would be a compromise. Whatever happens that big stand will have to come down so what's left would be fairly basic anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, ch958 said: Looking at the site on Google earth I feel there's room for a Redcar/ Worky site AND some houses. Perhaps if BE were made to build a basic circuit in return for allowing a number of houses it would be a compromise. Whatever happens that big stand will have to come down so what's left would be fairly basic anyway. That not what has been said. The main stand would be boarded up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted September 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 All this discussion regarding the 3G pitch is a bit puzzling to me. Aren't BE planning to include one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Blimey, they're pulling the bloke from yesterday apart again... and he's not even there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gambo said: All this discussion regarding the 3G pitch is a bit puzzling to me. Aren't BE planning to include one? Yes - they are justifying the demand and dealing with the stupid comments made by yesterdays expert witness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, iainb said: Blimey, they're pulling the bloke from yesterday apart again... and he's not even there! Having watched yesterday in full, he is a very easy target and the BE Barrister should make the most of this on behalf of his client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Somebody has paid the bald guy to put together an analysis of the state of speedway, using only "officially available data"? He dug so deep, he took the Oxford stadium's capacity to be what it states on the speedway club's website. Talk about money for old rope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gambo said: All this discussion regarding the 3G pitch is a bit puzzling to me. Aren't BE planning to include one? seems to me that if they want a 3g pitch so badly, just let them build one in the stadium car park... everyone's a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, iainb said: seems to me that if they want a 3g pitch so badly, just let them build one in the stadium car park... everyone's a winner! or on the centre green a la Belle Vue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1,200 people using a 3G pitch weekly against 14 riders using a speedway track over the same period. This is ludicrous. On that basis, we'd be covering, with 3G pitches, every piece of land not in use for residential, commercial or industrial purposes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Piotr Pyszny said: 1,200 people using a 3G pitch weekly against 14 riders using a speedway track over the same period. This is ludicrous. On that basis, we'd be covering, with 3G pitches, every piece of land not in use for residential, commercial or industrial purposes! That's Sport England for you. They are all about participation not spectator numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: That's Sport England for you. They are all about participation not spectator numbers. To be fair they were trying to justify the need spectators yesterday although rather weakly. At the moment the council seem to have thrown us under the bus, their barrister sat there with what looked like his daughters laptop with childish stickers all over it calls a stuttering bumbling idot as a witness! Edited September 21, 2023 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, Gambo said: Aren't BE planning to include one? Yes that's what they've been trying to justify for the last 3 days... in place of the stadium as a sporting facility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 I thought alot of the same points/arguments were the same as yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, eric i said: I thought alot of the same points/arguments were the same as yesterday. it's the only argument they've got isn't it really. prove the Stadium isn't viable but a 3g pitch is, this replacing the sporting facility 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Hopefully scs barrister will dig into a lot of that crap that Edie came out with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: That's Sport England for you. They are all about participation not spectator numbers. Yes, I've come across Sport England's participation obsession before - and the laughable statistics that support it. Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
190557 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Why isn't someone pointing out the fact that a 3g pitch will be used by people ( mainly men) in their teens, twenties and maybe thirties? Brandon Stadium will provide sporting entertainment for families with children of 5 years old and adults up to 95 years old. Why isn't more being made of the fact that stock car racing is the big money earner at Brandon? Why do they keep the discussion to Speedway? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, 190557 said: Why isn't more being made of the fact that stock car racing is the big money earner at Brandon? Why do they keep the discussion to Speedway? You would hope that the SCS barrister will make great play of that. If Mr Edie has not really factored that in (and as far as I could hear, he confirmed that) then the barrister should be able to throw doubt on his whole assessment of Brandon stadium's vialbilty versus a 3g pitch. I hope the barrister might also make the point, amongst many others, that the participants in a Premier League football club are far out weighed by the number of supports who attend, and compare that as a parallel to 14 speedway participants in a meeting. I would think the SCS barrister will be able to challenge Mr Edie on much of his evidence, especially where it was inaccurate and where he speculated - using the 'who did you speak to to establish this evidence' approach, as the BE barrister did quite extensively 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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