Toady Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) This is more like it Mr Carter, very professional hope he finds the document regarding Oxford stadium planning in th break also acknowledging Osbournes sham motorsports company Edited September 21, 2023 by Toady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Oh God... please don't call Buster as a witness! If you thought yesterday was bad... Edited September 21, 2023 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Toady said: This is more like it Mr Carter, very professional hope he finds the document regarding Oxford stadium planning in th break also acknowledging Osbournes sham motorsports company Oxford Council's decision over the stadium at Cowley is persuasive. Let's see how Mr Carter performs under cross-examination. Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Predictably, the defence is relying on the 'lack of appropriate qualifications, experience or expertise' argument re the costings for reinstating speedway and stock car racing at Brandon. Tricky for the pro-motorsport side, when the 'opposition' has refused access to the stadium for surveys etc. Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 I can see the Craig Cook incident being brought up soon... they really are scraping the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 The defence is also making both sports look amateurish because no one is able to provide spectator figures. This has come up on all three days so far. This is something that Phil Morris needs to get the Premiership Clubs to publish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, SJA said: The defence is also making both sports look amateurish because no one is able to provide spectator figures. This has come up on all three days so far. This is something that Phil Morris needs to get the Premiership Clubs to publish. But like the chap said not every sport produces attendance figures, there's no legal requirement to do so 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SJA said: The defence is also making both sports look amateurish because no one is able to provide spectator figures. This has come up on all three days so far. This is something that Phil Morris needs to get the Premiership Clubs to publish. Football is now the only sport that consistently publishes official attendance figures (given the disparity between tickets sold and attendees, many of those are works of fiction). Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Piotr Pyszny said: Football is now the only sport that consistently publishes official attendance figures (given the disparity between tickets sold and attendees, many of those are works of fiction). Along with Premiership Rugby, Rugby League etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 It almost broke out into A Few Good Men there... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SJA said: Along with Premiership Rugby, Rugby League etc. A number of Super League rugby league clubs - Hull Kingston Rovers, for example - have this season ceased publishing official attendance figures. Three top-flight rugby union clubs no longer publish attendance figures (real or imagined) because they went out of business. Product not attractive enough to lure sufficient paying customers to sustain the business. Elite League ice hockey clubs usually publish attendance figures (although you have to seek them out). That's about it. Given the gravity of this inquiry, why attendance figures for speedway and stock car racing couldn't be divulged (the business owners must be aware what they are), I simply don't know. In the case of the former (average, shall we hazard, circa 1,200), embarrassment, most likely. Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, iainb said: WHAT! Mr Ford "the prospective Speedway promoter"!!! I'm out! Looks like Poole have found a new home Mr Shovlar have a look at this: https://www.railcard.co.uk/ Coventry Pirates? Does Coventry have a Chateau nearby? Will he be in partnership with anybody? Coventry Robins anyone? ....and why would Mr Osborne request to speak after MF next Weds, rather than before him? Edited September 21, 2023 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 We have to skewer them with their own BS £13.6m to remove the grandstand that £109k per house how is that viable. hunter did say £51m turnover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Cripes. Now, there is confusion over which is the east and which the west stand. Isn't that one of the points of a site visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 In all honesty I have absolutely no idea what is going on. I don't know who is on whose side, but am coming to the conclusion the party doing most of the legalise talk is obnoxious. Don't people ask straight forward & to the point questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, kitten2502 said: ...... Don't people ask straight forward & to the point questions. How they going to fill up 8 days doing that? Seriously, this was always going to get down in the weeds. Heaven help those trying to pull out the salient facts from all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, False dawn said: How they going to fill up 8 days doing that? Seriously, this was always going to get down in the weeds. Heaven help those trying to pull out the salient facts from all this. Right at the start, Ms Hockenhull laid out the main "bones of contention", outlined by the local press as: whether the new development would have a greater harm on the green belt; whether the stadium should be deemed as surplus to requirements; the financial viability of restoring the stadium; whether there is a need for the proposed 3G pitch; and whether its inclusion would outweigh the loss of the stadium, plus consideration of other benefits including new housing. I presume Ms Hockenhull has the necessary experience, expertise and fair-mindedness to sort the wheat from the chaff as she weighs up the various submissions. Watching this reminds me of my cub reporter days, in the 1980s, covering local authority meetings. Frequently, what took an hour could have been done in 10 minutes. Edited September 21, 2023 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 At last somebody from their side appears as a witness... we'll see how good our boy is when he gets his chance to put this guy through the ringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 You have to admit that some of this evidence really doesn't paint speedway in a good light. Especially the Belle Vue stuff just now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, 40-38 said: You have to admit that some of this evidence really doesn't paint speedway in a good light. Especially the Belle Vue stuff just now. and Belle Vue can only use the track on 34 days a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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