naffer Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Full kudos to SCS team Credit to the gallery Tony Gillias top man the councillors saw through the bullrubbish and voted correctly I know BE will appeal but a unanimous refusal must put them on the back foot at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Maybe Arnie might know the answer to this- do the planning officers take the refusal personally ? or is it just a job ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Maybe Arnie might know the answer to this- do the planning officers take the refusal personally ? or is it just a job ? They are individual human beings. Some will and some won't. Some regard councillors as ignorant amateurs getting in the way of professional planners, others accept they are there to give professional advice to democratically elected representatives. Most will take time to listen to and engage with councillors they respect, and try and remain dilomatically tight lipped with the grandstanding egotistical ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway fan Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, naffer said: Full kudos to SCS team Credit to the gallery Tony Gillias top man the councillors saw through the bullrubbish and voted correctly I know BE will appeal but a unanimous refusal must put them on the back foot at least Was also good to see that there was no actual motion put forward to accept the Planning Officer's recommendation, just the motion to refuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, arnieg said: They are individual human beings. Some will and some won't. Some regard councillors as ignorant amateurs getting in the way of professional planners, others accept they are there to give professional advice to democratically elected representatives. Most will take time to listen to and engage with councillors they respect, and try and remain dilomatically tight lipped with the grandstanding egotistical ones. Thanks. How to you see this playing out now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 the document produced was top top class, it wd have been very fishy if the decision had been different. Well done Coventry, Oxford, Worky - the sport's not dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) My husband attended this meeting and was very emotional when he passed the news to me. I then became 3 times as emotional as him. Whatever the outcome well done to all those involved in a possible return. I'm cock-a-hoop for a positive result and will transition from an armchair supporter of speedway at to my local club. Edited November 9, 2022 by fliss44 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Thanks. How to you see this playing out now ? Brandon Estates will appeal. Appeals are dealt with by Planning Inspectorate (professional planners - no democratic involvement). Meanwhile they'll submit another application (the exact nature of it will depend on the precise terms of the reasons for refusal, which they will (pretend to) address.). Usually with a contentious site the developer will keep plodding away with appeals and new/revised applications for 5 years or more. If council don't look like buckling they'll probably offer some form of planning gain as a carrot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 I know I'm a little late to all this, but wow!!! I know there's a long way to go, but it's looking a lot better than we expected. A lot better than we usually get... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 The danger is of course, that Brandon Estates will now sit tight for perhaps 20 years or more, knowing that it will not decrease in value. I'm as pleased as everyone else at the outcome of today's planning meeting and really hope that Brandon Estates get the message that they and their proposals are not wanted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Congratulations to all involved in this decision- now get speedway back at Brandon stadium asap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Haza said: Congratulations to all involved in this decision- now get speedway back at Brandon stadium asap Hopefully it can be as successful as Oxford's resurrection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, arnieg said: Brandon Estates will appeal. Appeals are dealt with by Planning Inspectorate (professional planners - no democratic involvement). Meanwhile they'll submit another application (the exact nature of it will depend on the precise terms of the reasons for refusal, which they will (pretend to) address.). Usually with a contentious site the developer will keep plodding away with appeals and new/revised applications for 5 years or more. If council don't look like buckling they'll probably offer some form of planning gain as a carrot. Plus the potential that the Government will revise, simplify, relax planning laws to enable more developments to go ahead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 Congratulations to all connected with Save Coventry Stadium on this brilliant victory. No doubt Brandon Estates will be willing to play the long game, and will continue until they get their own way, but I reckon they thought they would get their own way today....and they didn't. Sadly I think the stadium will suffer further fires now, even if the landowners do get convicted of neglect at their upcoming trial. But well done to all for today. Keep up the fight. Tony Gillias is a beast! p.s. In the report they said that "Nationwide Doors Ltd" were willing to help rebuild the stadium, but a check of Companies House shows "Nationwide Doors Ltd" as a dormant company in Lancashire, so I presume this is the wrong company? Does anyone know who this company are that are willing to help rebuild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 BRANDON APPLICATION REFUSED - Save Coventry Speedway 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 Congratulations on getting this decision - I must admit to being a little surprised (pleasantly) that it was a unanimous decision I dipped into the stream for a few minutes to find it seemed that 3 trees were given greater regard than the stadium in the mitigation report! Let's hope it can be seen through to getting the Bees back and also that by the time it happens there is a sport worthy of the effort to revive a great club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) I must admit that after reading yesterday's story in the Telegraph "Coventry Stadium to be transformed into housing estate" I was thoroughly depressed, as it seemed to be slanted towards certain success for Brandon Estates with only minor reference to the save it campaign. Although I never have the chance to get down there these days, it was so much part of my growing years and youth right up until work took me away from the area in my early twenties. One of my best mates at the time lived next door to the stadium so that even in the off season I was around the stadium constantly. It was part of my life and education, it's apparently in my DNA. I could still take you to the exact spot, where we used to boo and cheer on the back straight in my school days, and to every inch of the stadium, and offices and pits. So it's a mega thank you from me to SCS &S campaigners for their incredible work to keep the place and hopes alive. Fabulous to see such a turnout at the council offices yesterday, and thanks to Rugby councillors for their diligent appraisal of the application. I'm very proud of the campaign to fight for Brandon !!! Edited November 10, 2022 by jrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 Well done to those involved. There's still a very long way to go yet thought. If speedway does return one day I doubt it would be inside the stadium as we know it know. It's too far gone. Surely the Main Grandstand would have to be demolished? It would cost a few million to re-instate it to its former glory and even in the final few seasons it was beginning to show it's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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