scoobydoo Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 10:41 AM, 1 valve said: First, can I immediately apologise for posting something off topic but hopefully what follows makes senses as I wanted to reach out to as many Coventry fans as possible and figured this is the best place to do so. The reason being that I have recently purchased a house as a renovation project and in the dilapidated garage there was a (wreck) of car and within it a large box of speedway programmes. I have not looked through them in any great detail but can say they are from the early 90's maybe earlier and basically cover Bees meetings home and away as well as some individual meetings where Cov riders were taking part - There is even a hat signed by Tommy Knudsen. Interestingly I flicked through a Heathens v Bees programme and noticed that a certain Greg Hancock was riding at reserve for Cradley scoring 11 points...the return fixture at Brandon he scored 5...I wonder what happened to that young lad!! The car and garage went last week, but if anybody is interested in the programmes let me know otherwise I'm sorry to say they will have to go too. I know its gone but what old car was it, theres a programme called Bangers & Cash about a car auction company and some of the most sort after and more interesting old cars are those that have been left for years in garages some fetch good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Talbot Samba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:10 PM, tyretrax said: Funny thing is greyhound people say that the greyhound board should have taken over Brandon for their H.Q. Maybe the BSPA should have brought it and turned it into there hq. Could have held Marketing Events and lived demos of the sport to potential investors as well as using it as a national coaching centre. If only that collective bunch of fools had some vision! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Spl77 said: Maybe the BSPA should have brought it and turned it into there hq. Could have held Marketing Events and lived demos of the sport to potential investors as well as using it as a national coaching centre. If only that collective bunch of fools had some vision! How were they going to pay for it- shirt buttons ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: How were they going to pay for it- shirt buttons ?? Like most things you have to have a plan and to plan you need vision. Brandon should be the jewell in the speedway crown and maybe a plan to make it the British speedway hq should have been put in place years before the demise in 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Spl77 said: Like most things you have to have a plan and to plan you need vision. Brandon should be the jewell in the speedway crown and maybe a plan to make it the British speedway hq should have been put in place years before the demise in 2017 And money and the BSPA are skint and have been for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 hours ago, racers and royals said: How were they going to pay for it- shirt buttons ?? How many millions did Mr Murdoch hand over to Speedway? And where did it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: How many millions did Mr Murdoch hand over to Speedway? And where did it go? I think we all know the answer- the riders ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: I think we all know the answer- the riders ! Yes, we all know that... But who willingly handed over all of the money? And who creamed off a large wedge themselves? Funnily enough I've just listened to the Shane Parker podcast this morning and he said exactly the same thing and be was one I would think that was benefiting from the Sky money. Maybe if there was an independent body running the sport the money would have been channeled elsewhere... Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 8:43 AM, iainb said: How many millions did Mr Murdoch hand over to Speedway? And where did it go? It is my understanding that 70% of that money went to one person! One usually very orange person! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 15 hours ago, KevtheRev said: It is my understanding that 70% of that money went to one person! One usually very orange person! Regardless of where the cash went it's proof if needed that those who run speedway in the country are incompetent. Vast amounts of money wasted and not invested in the future of the sport, total failure to capitalise on the involvement of sky sports and the greater media attention that brought for a few seasons. I would love to see the sport return to Brandon I have such fond memories of watching my team Ipswich at Brandon on Saturday evenings during the 90s and of course those wonderful Sunday afternoon British finals of the early mid 90s. I'm sorry to say that unless this once wonderful sport changes dramatically in the next 6 months ready for 2021 then the fate of speedway in this country will mirror that of Brandon. I wish you guys who are trying to save the stadium and return it to speedway use all the best but without massive change the sport will be nothing but a memory in a few years with the exception of one or two tracks staging the old open meeting and experience days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 16 hours ago, KevtheRev said: It is my understanding that 70% of that money went to one person! One usually very orange person! DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed. And let's be honest, most of the money Terry Russell did make from the various TV deals has been ploughed back into Swindon over the years. I doubt he made a net profit on those two activities. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 22 hours ago, KevtheRev said: It is my understanding that 70% of that money went to one person! One usually very orange person! Your understanding is way off.... 5 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed. Spot on Phillip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 10:22 AM, racers and royals said: I think we all know the answer- the riders ! ...and ultimately the engine suppliers and tuners!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 7:39 AM, PHILIPRISING said: DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed. That is absolutely correct. I seem to recall that an origination of a sponsorship is possibly around 20%...but any subsequent re-negotiation the commission goes down to 10%...again this is pretty much standard in all sports/commercial deals. Also 80% of a wedge is a bloody sight better than 100% of **** all. Again from experience the effort that Terrence put into ALL aspects of Speedway has far,far outweighed any rewards he has received. At times the BSPA was full of people who did nothing but grizzle and moan about their share, whilst doing absolutely nothing to improve their business or the overall good of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, spiegal said: That is absolutely correct. I seem to recall that an origination of a sponsorship is possibly around 20%...but any subsequent re-negotiation the commission goes down to 10%...again this is pretty much standard in all sports/commercial deals. Also 80% of a wedge is a bloody sight better than 100% of **** all. Again from experience the effort that Terrence put into ALL aspects of Speedway has far,far outweighed any rewards he has received. At times the BSPA was full of people who did nothing but grizzle and moan about their share, whilst doing absolutely nothing to improve their business or the overall good of the sport. But wasn't the chief negotiator the chairman of an association? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 A chink of light perhaps? Long way to go, but fingers crossed http://www.savecoventryspeedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.4195 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just seen this on the BSPA site sounds promising but guess depends if BE want to sell https://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/news.php?extend.38248 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Yes, regardless of your own club allegiance it would be great to see a famous Speedway name return. The sport needs more Clubs and I am sure this would be a tremendous boost. Regardless of the state of Brandon when it re-opens I am sure most fans will be just happy to see the return the track-action. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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