Belle Vue vs Poole 6/5/19

[bigcatdiary]

58 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Since last year it’s been tactical substitute from 6 points behind.

 

 

Correct

Good result for Poole

Edited May 6, 2019 by bigcatdiary

[Arthur54]

What a come back, right the pirates off at your peril ☠️ 

[Steve0]

1 minute ago, Arthur54 said:

What a come back, right the pirates off at your peril ☠️ 

Write

[hyderd]

After 8 heats and 16 pts in front, I truly expected a score similar to the match at Poole, Poole had different ideas and  found their gating boots. Great comeback so well done to Poole, but for me the real winner was speedway, racing like that is what it's all about, yes they did water too much, but that goes for both teams.Totally agree with others about Wells and Berge, problem is  who could we replace them with.

[acef]

7 minutes ago, hyderd said:

After 8 heats and 16 pts in front, I truly expected a score similar to the match at Poole, Poole had different ideas and  found their gating boots. Great comeback so well done to Poole, but for me the real winner was speedway, racing like that is what it's all about, yes they did water too much, but that goes for both teams.Totally agree with others about Wells and Berge, problem is  who could we replace them with.

There are a few options available. Belle vue are generally loyal to their riders so I would be surprised to see changes at this point.

The first thing we need to do is adjust the riding order. Wells needs to go to number 2, Dan to number 4 and Steve to number 3. Bjerre will likely go to 1 at the next set of averages. That should give us a better balance.

Garrity is on decent terms now so I'd have a look. The biggest change though is simple enough, get the averages down enough to be able to bring Craig back for Ricky, and get a replacement for Berge.

[Phil The Ace]

11 minutes ago, hyderd said:

After 8 heats and 16 pts in front, I truly expected a score similar to the match at Poole, Poole had different ideas and  found their gating boots. Great comeback so well done to Poole, but for me the real winner was speedway, racing like that is what it's all about, yes they did water too much, but that goes for both teams.Totally agree with others about Wells and Berge, problem is  who could we replace them with.

Racing was awful. Heat 15 was good without a pass though

[acef]

55 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Sorry I thought it was always the best prepared race track in the UK?!  Can't have been Poole riders asking for it to be watered as they never like track watering once the meeting is well underway!!

It isn't poorly prepared it's just not been prepared like the past. Its still a beautiful track to ride.

The outside has gone. You literally go backwards when you get out to it. 

[acef]

7 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said:

Racing was awful. Heat 15 was good without a pass though

Dont think it was awful Phil. Not close to the standard we are used to but it would still beat most tracks.

It was really deep today and that just doesnt suit the track. It needs to be slick with enough on the outside to make 2 racing lines.

The racing got better when it went slick.

[Halifaxtiger]

1 hour ago, Dornier fixer said:

Perhaps halifaxtiger will have a word with Colin Meredith

I think they watered it because people complain about dust when there isn't any  For future reference, Colin Meredith hasn't done the track for a couple of years  

I think its a cheap excuse to blame the track. True, it was watered but it didn't turn to slop. 

What did Belle Vue was poor starts by Fricke & Bewley in heats 9 & 10, a lack of ruthlessness by Bjerre, Worrall making a hash of bend 3, lap 4 heat 10 and a poor performance from Wells. In addition, when the chips were down Poole dug in and they should be given the credit for it. Had their team manager been more astute, they might well have won. 

[Sherborne Green]

Nodody giving any praise to Poole

 

 

[iris123]

8 minutes ago, Sherborne Green said:

Nodody giving any praise to Poole

 

 

Have you read the previous comments at all? A number of people have done just that

[Rob B]

 

[Dornier]

38 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said:

I think they watered it because people complain about dust when there isn't any  For future reference, Colin Meredith hasn't done the track for a couple of years  

I think its a cheap excuse to blame the track. True, it was watered but it didn't turn to slop. 

What did Belle Vue was poor starts by Fricke & Bewley in heats 9 & 10, a lack of ruthlessness by Bjerre, Worrall making a hash of bend 3, lap 4 heat 10 and a poor performance from Wells. In addition, when the chips were down Poole dug in and they should be given the credit for it. Had their team manager been more astute, they might well have won. 

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Sorry I thought it was always the best prepared race track in the UK?!  Can't have been Poole riders asking for it to be watered as they never like track watering once the meeting is well underway!!

And if they had watered it against Swindon we may have had a different result 

[ray c]

4 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

And if they had watered it against Swindon we may have had a different result 

and maybe a serious accident as well

[keepturningleft]

There was a lot of close racing without overtakes - just as thrilling in it's own way.

Enjoyable meeting - well done to Poole.

[DBP]

Thought the first 7 heats were poor very processional, things improved in second half of the meeting which coincided with the poole fightback.

Gating was a priority even Fricke and Bewley struggled when they missed it.Agree that Wells and Berge probably need replacing and credit to Poole for the fightback for a well deserved draw.

 

[Trackrat]

Pleased with this nice tight scoreline, stops the cheats fudging the averages and making 17 changes. 

[WestGorton1884]

On 5/6/2019 at 2:28 PM, BLACKHEART said:

The other day I told you a fact about the Belle Vue team and Lidsey. 

Ricky Wells will never do anything in the Premiership so don't be shocked that he is putting low points on the board. He has been around for a good few years and he's never pulled up any tree's. 

Berge you get what you pay for and that's a rider who will achieve his average on most tracks but wont over achieve and again you are getting what you paid for. He and Wells will not be putting a point on starting GSA's because they're not good enough to do that. More often than not they will achieve their averages but will also throw in the odd nightmare meeting here and their. Not going to over achieve.

The entire Belle Vue team relies on Jaimon Lidsey living up to the hype and over achieving. If he doesn't the entire Belle Vue team falls apart. Yes it's asking a lot but that's the risk Belle Vue have taken. 

Lidsey is not doing anything at the moment so Belle Vue's best bet is to get rid of Ricky Wells or Dimitri Berge because they cant afford to have 3 riders struggling to put 13 points on the board every meeting. 

 

That’s not a fact , that’s an opinion, your opinion 

please don’t get the two mixed up 

Edited May 10, 2019 by WestGorton1884

[GregoryM]

1 hour ago, acef said:

It isn't poorly prepared it's just not been prepared like the past. Its still a beautiful track to ride.

The outside has gone. You literally go backwards when you get out to it. 

You're not wrong on that according to Stevie Worrall. That's almost word-for-word what he said in the press conference.

He also was angry with himself for allowing Josh G. to pip him to the line in heat 10. He knew he'd done wrong, but also thought that it was actually Max there where Josh was.

The comments re: the riding order I'd fully agree with. We are looking very weak in heat 14 - even allowing for Brady Kurtz being there as a tac sub today - but we've been so used to having Rohan Tungate in that heat and it was like having a 4th heat leader at the NSS. Just taking that heat in isolation with Rohan there instead of Ricky Wells, there'd have been a good chance of him at least splitting the Pirates pair and that would have meant a narrow Aces win. Just my opinion - I readily admit I really enjoy watching Tungate at the NSS - but I'm hoping for his and the Aces sake that Ricky will improve on his scores. I don't doubt his effort at all, and maybe a move to the No.2 position might help him.