Weeyin Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 10:32 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly I hoped you mopped it up... or if that's all it takes to get you an George canned it was a cheap night... good craic and enjoyed the company... apart from George coming back wid a cider instead of a bitter... yuk... nice to chat with wee Dorothy as well... good meeting although we lost and how costly were Stevie Worrall's engine gremlins in Heat 13.... never mind could have been oh so different... Oh and just to add I find it hard to believe when you told me that Gazc has such gender issues as he comes across so manly in his posts... he must have been the first publican ever in Glasgow to wear a frock... brave man... xxx Regards THJ Expand Was nice to meet you too THJ , I take back my slagging you off on the Worky page last season, you're not a bad bloke really 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofdiamonds Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Jedd List looking very fast after the meeting, albeit racing alone. I would try and fit him in if we can. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 7:56 PM, Cerro said: Great win for the boys tonight, not often you get an away win when your reserves don't beat a single opponent.. On another note, whats the script regarding the best 2nd place team advancing to the semi finals in the CS.. Obviously the teams in the Southern group are at a disadvantage since they have 2 less meetings compared to the other groups.. So how is it calcuated? Expand It's calculated on an average basis of points per meeting or something like that. That actually gives the three team group a slight advantage as each meeting is worth more percentage-wise. Glasgow need two points from their outstanding fixture (14/6 = 2.33) to have a better record than Somerset (9/4 = 2.25). 1 point is not enough (13/6 = 2.16). Berwick have qualified irrespective of whether they finish first or second in the group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 12:47 PM, jackofdiamonds said: Jedd List looking very fast after the meeting, albeit racing alone. I would try and fit him in if we can. Expand He would fit at the expense of Simon, but he would be in the main body of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerro Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 1:38 PM, leander said: It's calculated on an average basis of points per meeting or something like that. That actually gives the three team group a slight advantage as each meeting is worth more percentage-wise. Glasgow need two points from their outstanding fixture (14/6 = 2.33) to have a better record than Somerset (9/4 = 2.25). 1 point is not enough (13/6 = 2.16). Berwick have qualified irrespective of whether they finish first or second in the group. Expand Its not like speedway to make anything easy is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 1:56 PM, Cerro said: Its not like speedway to make anything easy is it Expand It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerro Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) On 5/6/2019 at 2:00 PM, crescent girl said: It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. Expand They are absolutely fair not disputing that. Edited May 6, 2019 by Cerro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 2:00 PM, crescent girl said: It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. Expand There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 2:31 PM, Gazc said: There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. Expand Now, that would be silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 2:31 PM, Gazc said: There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. Expand What is the easy way? It’s a group stage of a tournament with 11 teams in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uluru Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 12:47 PM, jackofdiamonds said: Jedd List looking very fast after the meeting, albeit racing alone. I would try and fit him in if we can. Expand I been telling you guys that for a fortnight. Get him in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 3:30 PM, Uluru said: I been telling you guys that for a fortnight. Get him in! Expand We're just waiting for someone else to snap him up... And then be like "there's no one available" that's what we usually do... No offence to Simon but there's nothing to lose... I like Simon but brough is not his track at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 2:58 PM, allthegearbutnaeidea said: What is the easy way? It’s a group stage of a tournament with 11 teams in it? Expand Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 3:48 PM, leander said: Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! Expand and we've never had a rain-off yet !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 3:48 PM, leander said: Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! Expand How would it be the same number of meetings? Surely Somerset in a group of 3 having 4 meetings finding themselves in a group of 6 having 10 meetings is more than 1 extra meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 4:30 PM, allthegearbutnaeidea said: How would it be the same number of meetings? Surely Somerset in a group of 3 having 4 meetings finding themselves in a group of 6 having 10 meetings is more than 1 extra meeting? Expand Same number of meetings as BEFORE Workington withdrew. Glasgow, Edinburgh, and Berwick all lost 2 home meetings (before Shield groups were reorganised) when Workington withdrew ( 1 Shield, 1 League). Somerset were originally in a group of four so they had 3 shield + 11 league = 14. They have actually lost two meetings 1 each in the Shield and one in the league. If they were in the group of five they would have the same number 4 shield + 10 league = 14, if they were in the group of six they would gain 1 as per 5 Shield+ 10 league = 15. Now they have 2 shield + 10 league =12. That's home meetings, same applies to away fixtures, so they are 4 down overall home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Let's just go and win at Armadale and let others worry about the maths 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 1:38 PM, leander said: It's calculated on an average basis of points per meeting or something like that. That actually gives the three team group a slight advantage as each meeting is worth more percentage-wise. Glasgow need two points from their outstanding fixture (14/6 = 2.33) to have a better record than Somerset (9/4 = 2.25). 1 point is not enough (13/6 = 2.16). Berwick have qualified irrespective of whether they finish first or second in the group. Expand Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 5/7/2019 at 8:52 AM, SharpenRake said: Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up Expand Now, your just trying to complicate things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 5/7/2019 at 8:52 AM, SharpenRake said: Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up Expand Friday 14 June is a blank/reserved date for both clubs so that would seem to be the obvious solution. Alternatively Glasgow are due at Edinburgh in the league on 28th June, so that could be switched to Shield fixture or run a double header on that date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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