Poole v Belle Vue Thurs 2nd May 2019

[ouch]

51 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Really?

Wow..

What are the others getting then if BV are the best?

 

1000-1500

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, lisa-colette said:

How do you know what Poole's crowd is if you are not at the stadium? 

Dear lord

Poole have a larger fanbase but its known that when the team does poorly the fans stay away

 

[Steve0]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The track needs a blade over it. The first bend was completely relaid last year all the way down but clearly there is an issue with the stability of the actual ground itself as the riders were being thrown all over the place. The grader went over it for a few minutes but it didn’t really solve the issue. Hopefully it will be worked on before next Thursday.

The second point is the watering of the track. No watering whatsoever took place during the meeting. Whilst there wasn’t the billowing clouds of dust, after the first few heats the moisture was gone and the track became slick with passing at a premium. We are lucky to have a brilliant race track at Poole which can produce tons of passing. But not while it is prepared as it currently is. The track needs more dirt, and the bowser going around every 4 heats during the warmer nights. 

As Matt has taken his finger off the pedal things have slipped. The air fence used to be immaculate. Now it has dirt on it from the previous week. Poor visual presentation. That bloody awful “music” the riders come out to? Sort it!

Provide the riders with a well prepared track and they will provide great racing. Which will get the crowd excited. Which will increase numbers. 

Perhaps the bigger issue is the lack of the top stars. They are gone fore the foreseeable future, perhaps they are never likely to return. The riders we have in the league now, bar the odd few, will never be replacements for Ward and Chris Holder, Or Trick, or Loram, or Magic. Their riding skills and ability to make stunning passes are a memory today.

 

Doyle was a very good swap for Magic - World Champion and loyal to British Speedway too.  A good bit of business there by Rosco!

[mikebv]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I believe Ouch was being ironic. 

Really?

Who knew?

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

Dear lord

Poole have a larger fanbase but its known that when the team does poorly the fans stay away

 

Every team doesn't do as well when it performs badly.

[Steve Shovlar]

42 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

so Aces fans get accused of not following there team hmmm ? peterboro 30+ seater coach + cars on a monday !! ipswich 19 seater minibus + cars wolves 50 + seater + lota of cars !! someone clearly needs to have a re-think !! perhaps come back and post when the last time poole did that recently ?? couldn't even get a minibus to swindon recently !! end of !!

We in the affluent south don’t go by bus. You should know that. But there are always many Poole fans at Swindon, as Swindon fans will testify. Adds to the fun of our meetings there. 

[DC2]

8 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

 

The riders we have in the league now, bar the odd few, will never be replacements for Ward and Chris Holder, Or Trick, or Loram, or Magic.

Their riding skills and ability to make stunning passes are a memory today.

 

 

To be fair, when Swindon are in town you’d see plenty of stunning passes ......... if only Poole could gate.  

 

[Catalan]

8 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The track needs a blade over it. The first bend was completely relaid last year all the way down but clearly there is an issue with the stability of the actual ground itself as the riders were being thrown all over the place. The grader went over it for a few minutes but it didn’t really solve the issue. Hopefully it will be worked on before next Thursday.

The second point is the watering of the track. No watering whatsoever took place during the meeting. Whilst there wasn’t the billowing clouds of dust, after the first few heats the moisture was gone and the track became slick with passing at a premium. We are lucky to have a brilliant race track at Poole which can produce tons of passing. But not while it is prepared as it currently is. The track needs more dirt, and the bowser going around every 4 heats during the warmer nights. 

As Matt has taken his finger off the pedal things have slipped. The air fence used to be immaculate. Now it has dirt on it from the previous week. Poor visual presentation. That bloody awful “music” the riders come out to? Sort it!

Provide the riders with a well prepared track and they will provide great racing. Which will get the crowd excited. Which will increase numbers. 

Perhaps the bigger issue is the lack of the top stars. They are gone fore the foreseeable future, perhaps they are never likely to return. The riders we have in the league now, bar the odd few, will never be replacements for Ward and Chris Holder, Or Trick, or Loram, or Magic. Their riding skills and ability to make stunning passes are a memory today.

 

The music for the walk on is from the new promotion.

 

 

[Aviator]

28 minutes ago, sugarray said:

The music for the walk on is from the new promotion.

 

 

Hope that’s not an indication of future standards or things to come from the new blood.

[Bald Bloke]

10 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Thick needs a blade over it. The first bend was completely relaid last year all the way down but clearly there is an issue with the stability of the actual ground itself as the riders were being thrown all over the place. The grader went over it for a few minutes but it didn’t really solve the issue. Hopefully it will be worked on before next Thursday.

The second point is the watering of the track. No watering whatsoever took place during the meeting. Whilst there wasn’t the billowing clouds of dust, after the first few heats the moisture was gone and the track became slick with passing at a premium. We are lucky to have a brilliant race track at Poole which can produce tons of passing. But not while it is prepared as it currently is. The track needs more dirt, and the bowser going around every 4 heats during the warmer nights. 

As Matt has taken his finger off the pedal things have slipped. The air fence used to be immaculate. Now it has dirt on it from the previous week. Poor visual presentation. That bloody awful “music” the riders come out to? Sort it!

Provide the riders with a well prepared track and they will provide great racing. Which will get the crowd excited. Which will increase numbers. 

Perhaps the bigger issue is the lack of the top stars. They are gone fore the foreseeable future, perhaps they are never likely to return. The riders we have in the league now, bar the odd few, will never be replacements for Ward and Chris Holder, Or Trick, or Loram, or Magic. Their riding skills and ability to make stunning passes are a memory today.

 

The first bit I highlighted...It wasn't done properly in the first place.

Second.. You can't chuck water on a track if there isn't much shale. The base becomes to slippery.

Third.. I think the saying is foot off the pedal. I thought Matt was flying in to home meetings?

I feel sorry for the fans tbh. The track needs money spent, and I can't see it happerning myself.

Looks like Matt is cashing out.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Bald Bloke

[Steve Shovlar]

2 hours ago, sugarray said:

The music for the walk on is from the new promotion.

 

 

Then they need to have a rethink. It’s crap.

[LisaColette]

8 hours ago, Gavan said:

Dear lord

Poole have a larger fanbase but its known that when the team does poorly the fans stay away

 

As they do at every track. But you said at Poole it is worse. But you don't even know that! 

[WestGorton1884]

On 5/3/2019 at 4:49 PM, lisa-colette said:

You would expect BV fans to more sympathetic considering they had Kirky Lane for a number of years. Instead you are recommending people don't go which would result in the club closing down. Maybe think before you post...?

I'm not recommending any such thing, it was a tongue in cheek reply to SS claim no fans from Manchester made the 

Long journey to Dorset on Thursday night , Maybe read all replies before you post ...?

[WestGorton1884]

On 5/3/2019 at 6:02 PM, BLACKHEART said:

Last comment on the topic with Lidsey as the cry babies don't like it when someone tells them something they don't want to hear.

Lidsey signed for Belle Vue on a 4.00 average.

At home excluding the 4 bonus points Jaimon has scored 11 points from 12 rides. Below his 4 point average.

Away from home excluding his single bonus point Jaimon has scored 12 points from 18 rides. Again below his 4 point average

Stats are above. I'm right and you're wrong. Come back to me when you have facts to prove otherwise. Silly multi aliased comments don't bother me it's just an excuse the cry babies use because they cannot argue with my factual opinions. 

Is this the same 'cry baby' who removed the 2019 team line ups ?

 

[scottyfan]

14 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said:

Is this the same 'cry baby' who removed the 2019 team line ups ?

 

Yep .... That’s him.

In case you don’t know....I have re-done the line ups on page 2 (you need to scroll down the page a little to find it) of Confirmed line ups 2019...All teams and riders have the correct starting averages courtesy of the BSPA Web site

Edited May 4, 2019 by scottyfan

[iwright71]

Unfortunately the situation at Poole is indicative of British speedway as a whole. Its crumbling slowly or now rather quickly  in front of our eyes. Its a gradual race to the bottom even for British speedways most successful club. The owner wants out, can't even fit the team out in matching kevlars , the track is falling to bits with seemingly no money or endeavour to fix it. All while the crowd figures slowly depreciate. Lets be honest who can take a 7 team top division seriously with 4 of those teams making the play offs, only those hard core fans who will watch anything and  only professionally because they have to, BT sport.  The end is not too far away for the Premiership as it stands.

Edited May 5, 2019 by iwright71

[Aviator]

1 hour ago, iwright71 said:

Unfortunately the situation at Poole is indicative of British speedway as a whole. Its crumbling slowly or now rather quickly  in front of our eyes. Its a gradual race to the bottom even for British speedways most successful club. The owner wants out, can't even fit the team out in matching kevlars , the track is falling to bits with seemingly no money or endeavour to fix it. All while the crowd figures slowly depreciate. Lets be honest who can take a 7 team top division seriously with 4 of those teams making the play offs, only those hard core fans who will watch anything and  only professionally because they have to, BT sport.  The end is not too far away for the Premiership as it stands.

Just in case anybody had forgotten what speedway racing is really like, there were some good examples of it at the SON last night..

[SteveLyric2]

5 minutes ago, Aviator said:

Just in case anybody had forgotten what speedway racing is really like, there were some good examples of it at the SON last night..

Seriously?! Apart from 3 or 4 heats I thought the whole meeting was very processional, boring gate and go and in front of smallish crowd. You could tell from Woffy's studio comments that he wasn't exactly enthralled by it either!!  Faster races don't mean better racing.

Edited May 5, 2019 by Skidder1

[Trees]

2 hours ago, iwright71 said:

Unfortunately the situation at Poole is indicative of British speedway as a whole. Its crumbling slowly or now rather quickly  in front of our eyes. Its a gradual race to the bottom even for British speedways most successful club. The owner wants out, can't even fit the team out in matching kevlars , the track is falling to bits with seemingly no money or endeavour to fix it. All while the crowd figures slowly depreciate. Lets be honest who can take a 7 team top division seriously with 4 of those teams making the play offs, only those hard core fans who will watch anything and  only professionally because they have to, BT sport.  The end is not too far away for the Premiership as it stands.

Speak for Poole only, other promotions are trying very hard.  Matt didn't have to try too hard when he had the Turbo Twins on board, he and his son do now .....

[Gemini]

1 hour ago, Aviator said:

Just in case anybody had forgotten what speedway racing is really like, there were some good examples of it at the SON last night..

There were probably some even better examples of it at Leicester last night because at last there was a visiting team with fighting spirit. Thank you Eastbourne for some brilliant racing but thanks also to the Lions, down to 6 men after Josh's first heat crash, who never gave up and battled hard to get three 5-1's in the last heats.