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Newcastle Vs Edinburgh SGB Champ Shield Easter Sunday 21 April


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3 hours ago, Dandelion said:

I'm not sure how much Simon wants to be at Newcastle like... I dunno, maybe he does, but it doesn't strike me as his favourite place to be, not saying he'd betray the club, but it's not ideal, just the only club left for him... At least Danyon is young... And Hopwood is solid... But even if not Hopwood, just a gamble on a 2.00er like Wallinger, Embleton or Luke Harris would be nice... Alex Spooner seems to have started the season on fire? (Not a hair joke)

BUT if we went for just a 2.00er rather than Hopwood, might as well get someone like Tom Perry or Carl Wilkinson (If not retired?) At least he likes our track

Two names for me:

1) regardless of desire to not have Aussies due to whatever visa/sponsorship/tracking - Jedd List looks the real deal. Second around Sheffield beating their own Aussie and a rider of a similar age drew kemp who is tipped for the top.... massive coup to get a rider who WILL get better, and given we aren’t getting points off Simon seems a total no brainier....

 

2) The next big thing in the conference who nobody has touched - Dan Gilkes. Seen the kid ride he is out of this world, and albeit only his first season fully at conference level he will be a heat leader, if not top of Kent’s averages this year....... if you need to pick up anyone - pick up this kid now! 

 

2 signings that would not only improve us this year, but both will become assets and both have huge futures in the sport, and will get better..

as an additional point on gilkes, if we elect to ride conference next year the promise of a championship spot and a national league spot to boot should be a huge draw!

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Good points.. on gilkes he's got good gear and food people around him well worth a consider but with him being based right down south and doing his exams at the moment would he travel up here on a Sunday then getting back home about 3 or 4 am then up for school at 8am could prove too much for him but I would like to see him here 

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4 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

Two names for me:

1) regardless of desire to not have Aussies due to whatever visa/sponsorship/tracking - Jedd List looks the real deal. Second around Sheffield beating their own Aussie and a rider of a similar age drew kemp who is tipped for the top.... massive coup to get a rider who WILL get better, and given we aren’t getting points off Simon seems a total no brainier....

 

2) The next big thing in the conference who nobody has touched - Dan Gilkes. Seen the kid ride he is out of this world, and albeit only his first season fully at conference level he will be a heat leader, if not top of Kent’s averages this year....... if you need to pick up anyone - pick up this kid now! 

 

2 signings that would not only improve us this year, but both will become assets and both have huge futures in the sport, and will get better..

as an additional point on gilkes, if we elect to ride conference next year the promise of a championship spot and a national league spot to boot should be a huge draw!

Interesting points. Will George & Martin take a chance?  Regardless of who is and isn't available i think the promotion have to have a serious think about making changes.

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5 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

Two names for me:

1) regardless of desire to not have Aussies due to whatever visa/sponsorship/tracking - Jedd List looks the real deal. Second around Sheffield beating their own Aussie and a rider of a similar age drew kemp who is tipped for the top.... massive coup to get a rider who WILL get better, and given we aren’t getting points off Simon seems a total no brainier....

 

2) The next big thing in the conference who nobody has touched - Dan Gilkes. Seen the kid ride he is out of this world, and albeit only his first season fully at conference level he will be a heat leader, if not top of Kent’s averages this year....... if you need to pick up anyone - pick up this kid now! 

 

2 signings that would not only improve us this year, but both will become assets and both have huge futures in the sport, and will get better..

as an additional point on gilkes, if we elect to ride conference next year the promise of a championship spot and a national league spot to boot should be a huge draw!

Interesting about Gilkes as he might get a run out at Brough soon in the Gems team due to absences.

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1 minute ago, Tsunami said:

Interesting about Gilkes as he might get a run out at Brough soon in the Gems team due to absences.

very interesting.

I wonder if Austin Novratil gets an invite to practice whilst he's over for the SON.

Yesterday 11 lasts (i.e. only 4 heats we could have gained a heat advantage) and our bottom three scored 4 vs Leicester's 22.  

Still not convinced there's a better 2.00 option out there than Phillips unless someone like Gilkes feels ready to go Championship after only a handful of National League meetings but perhaps once the points limit increases that'll either give us more points to play with or free up a 2.00 discarded elsewhere.

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To repeat myself (April 22) your team should thank Simon Lambert for his efforts and move him on.       Don't miss the chance of Jedd List while he's still unattached -- and he'd surely become you asset too?

Not even Rob Godfrey could try to claim him for Scuthorpe after what he did.

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I really really like Dan Gilkes, watched him a few times and love his style... BUT with the few points already raised about his exams, location and such and the stage he is at in his career, it would be a year too early would it not? Dan rode in an NJL meeting already around Brough and although I'm sure it was his first time there and he will have improved since, it's probably too early for him, Josh was beating him and he seemed to struggle a bit with the track... Although I do admit, he IS the next big thing in British speedway, and relatively unspoken about... Would be a great asset for 2020... As for Jedd List, all comments apply... He seems very fast around the big tracks, but Newcastle? I dunno... Although he did look comfortable enough in his second half laps (by himself) could that have been the promotion inviting and watching him?

 

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13 hours ago, enotian said:

very interesting.

I wonder if Austin Novratil gets an invite to practice whilst he's over for the SON.

Yesterday 11 lasts (i.e. only 4 heats we could have gained a heat advantage) and our bottom three scored 4 vs Leicester's 22.  

Still not convinced there's a better 2.00 option out there than Phillips unless someone like Gilkes feels ready to go Championship after only a handful of National League meetings but perhaps once the points limit increases that'll either give us more points to play with or free up a 2.00 discarded elsewhere.

No offence, but would that discarded 2 pointer not be good enough, as he's been discarded? Just a thought.

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33 minutes ago, StevePark said:

No offence, but would that discarded 2 pointer not be good enough, as he's been discarded? Just a thought.

Depends on whether he'd then be a better or worse option than our then discarded 2.00er

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6 minutes ago, Dandelion said:

Depends on whether he'd then be a better or worse option than our then discarded 2.00er

very true however the only other 2.00er that looks like being discarded is Chessell and he will likely retire if that happens. Very limited options left though with distances, Sunday race days being blockers. I fear patience has run out with Phillips though (justifiably so) and a fresh face even scoring same low/no points would be better regarded if they were showing some improvement.

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5 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

very true however the only other 2.00er that looks like being discarded is Chessell and he will likely retire if that happens. Very limited options left though with distances, Sunday race days being blockers. I fear patience has run out with Phillips though (justifiably so) and a fresh face even scoring same low/no points would be better regarded if they were showing some improvement.

Not sure how likely Danny is to be dropped though... Must be really difficult for Martin, and it's understandable

Does Joe Lawlor still ride after being dropped by Glasgow? (Just don't let him in any hotels) Also heard rumours of Jack Parkinson Blackburn coming back, but how many meetings would he do before he retired again? Maybe Paul Bowen can be given a chance, on the promise he brings the whole team a half time pie...

Interesting times ahead...

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14 minutes ago, Dandelion said:

Not sure how likely Danny is to be dropped though... Must be really difficult for Martin, and it's understandable

Does Joe Lawlor still ride after being dropped by Glasgow? (Just don't let him in any hotels) Also heard rumours of Jack Parkinson Blackburn coming back, but how many meetings would he do before he retired again? Maybe Paul Bowen can be given a chance, on the promise he brings the whole team a half time pie...

Interesting times ahead...

I believe Lawlor is still floating about but has temperament issues and no NL place for regular rides. JPB is a waste of time as proven previously. Everyone loves the pie man but if i was genuinely looking someone like Luke Harris could really progress given help, Alex Spooner is a has bikes will travel rider, otherwise its a complete rookie but see what can be done to assist? Ben Rathbone would always have the best equipment in the pits?

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17 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

I believe Lawlor is still floating about but has temperament issues and no NL place for regular rides. JPB is a waste of time as proven previously. Everyone loves the pie man but if i was genuinely looking someone like Luke Harris could really progress given help, Alex Spooner is a has bikes will travel rider, otherwise its a complete rookie but see what can be done to assist? Ben Rathbone would always have the best equipment in the pits?

Them 3 were joke suggestions... Just kinda proving how bottom of the barrel we are looking at... Not much out there, but there's also nothing to lose, any of these riders are worth a gamble imo...

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18 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

I believe Lawlor is still floating about but has temperament issues and no NL place for regular rides. JPB is a waste of time as proven previously. Everyone loves the pie man but if i was genuinely looking someone like Luke Harris could really progress given help, Alex Spooner is a has bikes will travel rider, otherwise its a complete rookie but see what can be done to assist? Ben Rathbone would always have the best equipment in the pits?

He would?

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10 hours ago, StevePark said:

No offence, but would that discarded 2 pointer not be good enough, as he's been discarded? Just a thought.

none taken sir.

my point (not made well enough) was that as others strengthen it's often the #7 that get's the boot in the numbers game.  

perhaps Edinburgh for example. in which case Ruddick would appear to be a better option.

note that Simon Lambert scored 3 at Kings Lynn last night. capable but not suited to Newcastle.

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On 4/22/2019 at 12:19 AM, geoff100 said:

I thought newcastle got out of jail on this one an ef robbed edinburgh a t/s for wells,tj falling that race could have been rerun,then no interval just a 20 min tracror race so tj could get his second bike sorted , then another 10 min delay after fe fell in ht 13.poor meeting apart from a couple of hts and a very poor ref .

Wells was lucky he was not excluded for having Jorgensen off. As you say bad ref.

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