Mark Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, acef said: I see the snowflakes are out in force. Soft. The lot of you. or not got a screw loose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, acef said: And the personal abuse starts to roll. Welcome to the bsf! The last one that did that was reported and had the post removed. I'll do the same for you. Cheers I wont sleep tonight knowing that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, geoff58 said: laughable !! so where is the reply to others who have commented on your sad post ?? i'm not the only one who think's its laughable !! Many think its laughable but that's just a clear indictment of the state of these boards today. It's a shadow of its former self. At no point have I wished injury. At no point have I said Dan wants to crash or that I would like him too. Once again, some people just fail to grasp the concept of reading between the lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Pinny said: I wont sleep tonight knowing that Excellent stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, geoff58 said: please feel free to post when someone agrees with your pathetic post !! i won't hold my breath waiting I'm absolutely certain nobody will. However, I literally couldn't care less. I dont post to appease the masses because I'm a grown up now. I've shared an opinion and have again been called names etc etc. Why people dont just engage in fair debate is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, acef said: I see the snowflakes are out in force. Soft. The lot of you. IF you ask any rider whether he wants to crash the answer would be no. Some of the most innocuous crashes turn out to be the worst. Having said that, I get the drift of your argument. It is often said of soccer players coming back from a bad injury that once they survive a tough tackle unscathed, psychologically it helps. But soccer tackles don't involve something as unpredictable and potentially dangerous as a speedway bike. And the surface of a speedway track is a great deal harder than grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, acef said: I'm absolutely certain nobody will. However, I literally couldn't care less. I dont post to appease the masses because I'm a grown up now. I've shared an opinion and have again been called names etc etc. Why people dont just engage in fair debate is beyond me. I would suggest you just leave it... You are not going to convince those who don't agree.. For what it's worth (ie not much), I do understand your sentiments.. When I played football I bust my ankle and for approx 3 games on my return I barely made a tackle due to my concern there could be further damage, (even though physio and all medical team who had helped in my recovery said it was fine)... Fourth game in, I had no choice but to instinctively take a 50/50 on and won the ball but got 'nailed'.. Best thing that could have happened to me as after some 'magic sponge' treatment (when did that stop fixing every ailment in football by the way?) I was up and about and flying in like nothing had happened... Coming back from injury can be a very mental thing to fix as you say... You do sometimes have to test your body out to convince yourself you are OK. .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, PHILIPRISING said: IF you ask any rider whether he wants to crash the answer would be no. Some of the most innocuous crashes turn out to be the worst. Having said that, I get the drift of your argument. It is often said of soccer players coming back from a bad injury that once they survive a tough tackle unscathed, psychologically it helps. But soccer tackles don't involve something as unpredictable and potentially dangerous as a speedway bike. And the surface of a speedway track is a great deal harder than grass. The circumstances are very different, totally understand that. It's why I'm trying to get across the point that I dont wish injury. It needs to be a crash you walk away from. The best thing that happened to me after my first crash, and I hurt myself, was crashing again. And for the reason you have highlighted. It was in my head. I walked away from the 2nd crash but I felt like the weight of the world had been lifted. Thank you for engaging me sensibly I appreciate it in a sea of people who just want to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 I thought it was a decent meeting but two and a half hours is far too long for fifteen races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: I would suggest you just leave it... You are not going to convince those who don't agree.. For what it's worth (ie not much), I do understand your sentiments.. When I played football I bust my ankle and for approx 3 games on my return I barely made a tackle due to my concern there could be further damage, (even though physio and all medical team who had helped in my recovery said it was fine)... Fourth game in, I had no choice but to instinctively take a 50/50 on and won the ball but got 'nailed'.. Best thing that could have happened to me as after some 'magic sponge' treatment (when did that stop fixing every ailment in football by the way?) I was up and about and flying in like nothing had happened... Coming back from injury can be a very mental thing to fix as you say... You do sometimes have to test your body out to convince yourself you are OK. .. I did my ligaments in the ankle about 18 months ago playing football. Broke the bone as well. 8 months out. So totally get you point of view. For 3 to 4 months after I've never been so nervous on a football pitch. It affected everything I did. Until someone rolled my ankle again and it stood up to it. Back to the player I was 18 months previous. The demons had gone. I knew my ankle could take it again. Thank you, like Phil, for posting fairly. Much appreciated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dornier fixer said: I thought it was a decent meeting but two and a half hours is far too long for fifteen races. More like 2 and a quarter. The delay at heat 15 was annoying but the track grading and watering was fine with me...………..then again, I was at Sheffield yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Great meeting as always with Wolves and plenty for both sets of fans to be pleased with as the match score had plenty of interest up until heat 12. Lots of good races with many being 2 in 1 on a track somehow devoid of dust until heat 15. There was some shenanigans with Adams’ nominations and this led to a 20 minute delay so it took the running time past the usual sub 2hr mark. It was an excuse to sit in the lovely sunshine any way. Nice to be traveling to Monmore for what now is a friendly. At the risk of upsetting folk I still hope any fallers don’t get injured, it’s the way I am and I’m not going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldace Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Yes, it was a little longer than normal and longer than the Colts meeting on Friday. But the only 'dead' time was that between heats 14 and 15. There was brief announcement suggesting some confusion/disagreement on who could ride in heat 15 but that was not explained. Other than that thought the meeting flowed well and I find it perfectly acceptable for a short delay between some heats for the water bowser to do it's job. All-in-all a good meeting with some decent racing and really nice to see Ricky Wells in the thick of it especially Ht 5 when he wouldn't be intimidated by Masters. It's been a good Easter at the NSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Us old timers may just about tolerate a 20 minute delay for no apparent reason whatsoever - but sadly, 'the young' probably won't and speedway will continue on it's suicidal path. I enjoyed the meeting up until then, the watering breaks were clearly essential, but long breaks such as the one after heat 14 are becoming toxic. Continuity is lost and everything falls flat. Like the very long advert breaks on tv, you can forget what your'e watching. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, keepturningleft said: Us old timers may just about tolerate a 20 minute delay for no apparent reason whatsoever - but sadly, 'the young' probably won't and speedway will continue on it's suicidal path. I enjoyed the meeting up until then, the watering breaks were clearly essential, but long breaks such as the one after heat 14 are becoming toxic. Continuity is lost and everything falls flat. Like the very long advert breaks on tv, you can forget what your'e watching. Sums it up for me too. You can only take so much of mascot Chase the Ace (who does a great job, don't get me wrong!) clowning around on the centre green with a few kids. And it's worth saying that all this clowning was taking place in front of the grandstand anyway...................at the opposite side of the stadium so completely ignoring those of us in the South stand. And constant playing of old standard 'pop' hits to fill the delay doesn't help. The comparison with the Colts meeting a couple of days before are completely justified. And yes, as with 'keepturningleft' I am an 'old timer'! But take out all the old timers from an average speedway crowd and you won't have too many people left! EDIT: I am behind the BV promotion in everything they are trying to do to keep the Aces viable. But they shouldn't be afraid to accept criticism when well meant. Edited April 22, 2019 by lastword update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, acef said: Christ your simple. Christ what on earth is wrong with you? You seem to have issues and seem a very angry individual. Absolutely no need to be calling people “simple”, none whatsoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Was the delay due to Belle Vue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, ouch said: Was the delay due to Belle Vue? When a delay like this occurs in a match it is immaterial who is to blame providing the crowd are kept informed as to the reason. In this case we were all just standing there like idiots not knowing what was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 The delay to heat 15 was due to Peter Adams arguing with the referee about riders eligible for heat 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Peter Adam's delayed heat 15 arguing about the rules for heat 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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