Brummies v Rebels 17.04.19

[ProudtobeaBrummie]

18 minutes ago, ch958 said:

4 likes for the post and 4 million people who won't come near the sport because of crap like guests

well contributed to what was a brilliant brilliant meeting twists and turns and well done somerset ,in fact well done all 14 riders you served up the best meeting i have seen in years at perry barr.

As for guests and attracting big names to this country it matters not one bit to people because that 4 million people would not have a clue who anyone is anyway. Producing racing like i witnessed tonight every week would get 4 million people interested. 

We will have to agree to disagree on the guest ruling but i want to be entertained first and win second.

Edited April 17, 2019 by ProudtobeaBrummie

[SomersetBlue]

Guests or not that was some speedway meeting. Obviously i'm happy to have won but Brummies gave their all but simply outdone by Covatti and Schlein as Brummies had no answer to them apart from a rare mistake from Schlein. Even when 6 points behind you could tell the Rebels were far from done. Too many inconsistent rides from Birmingham and tbh only really held the lead due to the inexperience of the Rebels reserves. Valentin was unlucky to retire whilst on a 5-1 as well. 

[alkadera]

Impressed with Grobauer and Atkins - not loads of points but always in the thick of the action. Atkins made a couple of excellent gates too.

[RebelDan]

Was Rowe competitive ? To be fair he won’t come up against as strong reserves in most meetings.

[alkadera]

Rowe was never far away.gating and first bend left him a lot to do apart from heat 2.  Big step up for both Rowe and Atkins but I think they can both develop quickly enough to cope, particularly against some of the lesser reserve pairings around.

[HGould]

Great meeting, good crowd, we lost, speedway won!

[Ben91]

R/R should have been kept as it was. Guests allowed for an absent number one or reserves only.

Did Summers score more than Haris would have? With Bomber’s form it’s hard to say. Would R/R have scored what Summers did? Possibly by a point or two, which was the difference on the night. 

Somerset’s soft belly and long tail didn’t do the business. How long until a change is made there? For Birmingham Thomsen looks as though he may be a duff. A steady middle order man in his place could be the difference in meetings like this. 

[Najjer]

12 minutes ago, Ben91 said:

R/R should have been kept as it was. Guests allowed for an absent number one or reserves only.

Did Summers score more than Haris would have? With Bomber’s form it’s hard to say. Would R/R have scored what Summers did? Possibly by a point or two, which was the difference on the night. 

Somerset’s soft belly and long tail didn’t do the business. How long until a change is made there? For Birmingham Thomsen looks as though he may be a duff. A steady middle order man in his place could be the difference in meetings like this. 

Agree with everything you’ve said. It’s typical of British Speedway to cure one problem of riders missing non stop through clashes of fixtures and riders guessing here there and everywhere to still allowing guests for the top 3 riders in the averages. It should be guests for your no.1 and reserves and then again only if there are 2 or more riders missing through injury.

Good win for Somerset which puts the pressure on Eastbourne to go there and get a result, which I expect them to manage relatively comfortably. Kurtz and Grobauer seem extremely flaky as expected whilst a half astute team manager could of won it for Birmingham by giving more rides to Castagna.

[Pinny]

Kurtz really needs to be riding like a third heatleader for this team to work.

those reserves are shockingly weak on the road and the new german will be duff more often than not .

very rarely see teams so top heavy sided do well but plenty of time yet.

[Sings4Speedway]

10 hours ago, JC71 said:

With your views on Covatti, is there any chance you could choose 6 numbers between 1 & 49............. no reason

I certainly wouldn't bank on it as there is no way i thought Kurtz would get 5 so maybe im just jammy? certainly shows that on the good days a strong heat leader trio will win matches on their own but will always be close. Brum can feel unfortunate almost everyone is doing their job/exceeding expectations especially Paco who i was harsh about early on. Thomsen is the only one costing them points at present and has to be in the firing line soon you feel? 

[GiveusaB]

Great meeting from a speedway spectacle. Obviously gutted that we lost, but not downhearted.

I saw a lot last night which gives me hope and excitement about our next 'home' meeting!?

The difference last night, was the same as when we rode Wolves in the challenge match ???

'We're 2nd best when it comes to getting out the gate' !?

Is Covatti that good, or did we make him look even better than he is? He looked a 'class' act last night and looked unbeatable in every department. I've never seen him ride so well?

Somerset will struggle against better teams as their reserves are 'good' prospects, but they're not good enough at this level just yet and I can't see that changing this season.

As for the Brummies? Our first replacement is a long way off  'imo'.....(Incidentally, I did spot Adam Ellis at the meeting last night? )

Thomsen has been thrown in at the deep end....he showed that he has the ability with his gutsy/excellent 2nd ride when passing Summers on the line.

He'll benefit from dropping down to reserve and I'd stick with him for sure!

Shanes will do ok at home but struggle away....he's not quick enough from the start and he's not alone?  Morris and Newman will score most of their points from the back as they too are slow starters.

Up to Heat 9? the track was perfect and we always had a chance when we missed the start.....but after that, it became drastically slick and we couldn't get near the fast gating Rebels!

No fault of the track prep, just the lack of shale that 'unfortunately' is of short supply around the country apparently?

 

 

Edited May 7, 2019 by GiveusaB

[Sings4Speedway]

Oh still no additional shale? I though the plans were to add quit a lot more and make the track far grippier? Is the lack of available shale the issue or the cost of it?

[GiveusaB]

25 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Oh still no additional shale? I though the plans were to add quit a lot more and make the track far grippier? Is the lack of available shale the issue or the cost of it?

Not sure???

But it'll make a massive difference if/when it arrives!?

[Ben91]

2 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Thomsen has been thrown in at the deep end....he showed that he has the ability with his gutsy/excellent 2nd ride when passing Summers on the line.

He'll benefit from dropping down to reserve and I'd stick with him for sure!

 

 

Although only early doors, Thomsen is averaging below two points a meeting. Bearing in mind his average can’t drop below four regardless of how little he may score, he may well not prove to be worth persevering with. Particularly as the man he’ll likely replace in a reserve berth, Castagna, could be going straight into the number one racejacket when the averages change. 

[SomersetBlue]

4 hours ago, Najjer said:

Good win for Somerset which puts the pressure on Eastbourne to go there and get a result, which I expect them to manage relatively comfortably. Kurtz and Grobauer seem extremely flaky as expected whilst a half astute team manager could of won it for Birmingham by giving more rides to Castagna.

Grobauer deserved a hell of lot more than 3 last night tbf, suffered a mechanical failure whilst on a 5-1. Kurtz rode well and was decent, won his main race in heat 8 and two 4-2s with Schlein. The main problem was the reserves they have the quality but not the experience. Atkins showed some quality getting out the gates but let it drop every single time. Rowe was on the pace but just not enough knowledge to mount challenges. Still a good win and was a brilliant meeting to watch. 

[Brummie Kev]

10 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

 Thomsen is the only one costing them points at present and has to be in the firing line soon you feel? 

I dont think so at all, its still early days for a change and tbh hes had good races in both home matches. Last night we needed more from him but he had a great race with Summers and beat him plus he had a decent meeting against Wolves two weeks ago. So he deserves more of a chance before the axe is wielded but even then im not sure they would anyway.

[The Dog]

Bearing in mind that the Brummies are probably a little 'rusty' still (that was only our 2nd home meeting) I'm not too concerned atm. Lots of positives against one of the more fancied teams and only lost on a final heat decider, lets give the boys a chance. The 'guest' situation isn't ideal unless you have a squad system covering every position, but how many riders would realistically sign up for that in the hope of getting a ride once in a blue moon? R/R is Ok until you get another rider injured, then a 5 man team against 7 looks really unprofessional. 

But, all in all, a good meeting with passing and action in nearly all races on a decent track. Nice to see a good away following too! More of the same next week!