BWitcher Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 9:24 PM, foreverblue said: But you said with Lambert scoring 13-14 Kings Lynn would have won easily, a 2 point win is a close win not an easy win. Expand I stand by it. The No 1 is the leader. If he is under performing it effects the whole side. If he's doing his job it can lift the rest of the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 10:16 PM, BWitcher said: I stand by it. The No 1 is the leader. If he is under performing it effects the whole side. If he's doing his job it can lift the rest of the team. Expand Oh so Andersen and Kerr suddenly get good scores because Lambert rides better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 10:32 PM, foreverblue said: Oh so Andersen and Kerr suddenly get good scores because Lambert rides better! Expand Yes. Good leaders are infectious and get results from people who generally would fall away. That applies in many walks of life and from a speedway stand point, it creates a team. Good teams get good results and that always starts at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 7:09 PM, Daniel Smith said: That's one season, an out and out No1 has to consistent year in year out. Last year may have been just one of those purple patches. Not likely though, I'm sure Robert will be back up there soon. Expand He's just a kid, to have any period of consistency to back up that type of argument will take many more seasons before we have an answer. Robert is an out and out number 1 with a huge ceiling, he will only get better but unfortunately that won't be in the UK for us to see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 10:56 PM, acef said: He's just a kid, to have any period of consistency to back up that type of argument will take many more seasons before we have an answer. Robert is an out and out number 1 with a huge ceiling, he will only get better but unfortunately that won't be in the UK for us to see it. Expand I agree, next season I believe will be his last UK season unless Poland's bubble bursts or until his early to mid 30's. Saying that, like many "Superstar" rider's before, he ends up being not all that by his mid 20's. There's just no way of knowing where someone's career will end up. Someone has to be a legend and another an also ran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 10:32 PM, foreverblue said: Oh so Andersen and Kerr suddenly get good scores because Lambert rides better! Expand If your No 1 and leader is going well it inspires confidence. It also allows him to perhaps spend more time encouraging and passing tips on to other riders. If things are going badly, he'll have his own problems to deal with and the rest of the team can be somewhat rudderless. That's basics surely! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 12:03 AM, BWitcher said: If your No 1 and leader is going well it inspires confidence. It also allows him to perhaps spend more time encouraging and passing tips on to other riders. If things are going badly, he'll have his own problems to deal with and the rest of the team can be somewhat rudderless. That's basics surely! Expand agree you only got to look at Swindon a couple of years ago when they were tipped for the wooden spoon . they had doyle as there talisman and won the league would they have won it with a lesser no 1 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) On 4/9/2019 at 10:48 PM, acef said: Yes. Good leaders are infectious and get results from people who generally would fall away. That applies in many walks of life and from a speedway stand point, it creates a team. Good teams get good results and that always starts at the top. Expand Yes I agree to a point but the riders have to have the ability and I don't think Lambert is that type of inspirational captain, I can't see their scores improving that much even if Lambert had got a good score, as it was he scored paid 7 which is probably only 6 less than he should have got, also Jack only got 1 from his first 3 rides so that is not representative of his ability either. Edited April 10, 2019 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 10:48 PM, acef said: Yes. Good leaders are infectious and get results from people who generally would fall away. That applies in many walks of life and from a speedway stand point, it creates a team. Good teams get good results and that always starts at the top. Expand They need the ability to get good scores, the bottom half of this Kings Lynn team is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 8:14 AM, foreverblue said: Yes I agree to a point but the riders have to have the ability and I don't think Lambert is that type of inspirational captain, I can't see their scores improving that much even if Lambert had got a good score, as it was he scored paid 7 which is probably only 6 less than he should have got, also Jack only got 1 from his first 3 rides so that is not representative of his ability either. Expand Paid 7 means nothing its his actual points scored that is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 8:57 AM, clambo71 said: Paid 7 means nothing its his actual points scored that is important. Expand Indeed to score 7 full points then he would have to beat his partner who therefore would drop those points and be paid instead for his total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 7:09 PM, Daniel Smith said: That's one season, an out and out No1 has to consistent year in year out. Last year may have been just one of those purple patches. Not likely though, I'm sure Robert will be back up there soon. Expand He is still only young still tho! Like you say I don’t doubt he will discover what the issue is and be back to known form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 Lambert seems to have trouble at times and I wonder if it is that he has not (as far as i know) got a top "spanner man" like Woofy would make a big help and he could give more time tp just riding the bike and scoring big points Just a thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 10:23 AM, John Scrutton said: Lambert seems to have trouble at times and I wonder if it is that he has not (as far as i know) got a top "spanner man" like Woofy would make a big help and he could give more time tp just riding the bike and scoring big points Just a thought Expand Are mummy and daddy still his UK pit crew ? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 10:30 AM, Blupanther said: Are mummy and daddy still his UK pit crew ? Expand That's a very childish remark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 when Kings Lynn had Topinka as their captain through the PL days the team really were a TEAM, the spirit in the pits lifted everyone and also had a lot of teams beaten before the meeting started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 12:03 PM, Rickyb said: That's a very childish remark Expand Just asked a question, but not had the answer yet. Is mother and father more acceptable for you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 12:59 PM, Blupanther said: Just asked a question, but not had the answer yet. Is mother and father more acceptable for you ? Expand Sounded more like a sarcastic remark, but if his parents are still his pit crew them i have to say they are doing a bloody good job of it 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 1:14 PM, Rickyb said: Sounded more like a sarcastic remark, but if his parents are still his pit crew them i have to say they are doing a bloody good job of it Expand It was a sarcastic remark.His dad was spannering for him in Poland on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 As I said. Lambert does his job, Kings Lynn are ok. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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