BOBBATH Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Let me start this off: Tommy Miller, Charlie Monk (for sure), Roy Trigg, Norman Hunter, George Hunter would reckon these guys would have graced the World Final more than some of 'em did. What say other forumlanders? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Before I forget what about Jim Squibb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 As like a similar thread the unfortunate Arne Pander would have graced any World Final if injuries hadn't slowed him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: As like a similar thread the unfortunate Arne Pander would have graced any World Final if injuries hadn't slowed him down. Arne Pander is a prime candidate for this one! It should also be pointed out that it wasn't just the injuries, but also his decision to prioritise riding in Britain, which didn't go down well with the Danish authorities. Arne took out British citizenship and entered the British qualifying rounds in 1966, having missed out in a few key seasons in the meantime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Bobby Schwartz is the obvious name surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, falcace said: Bobby Schwartz is the obvious name surely? We have actually covered this subject on the BSF before, and for me, Schwartz is the one who stands out. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Tom Farndon....or doesn't it count if they died before the World Championship was introduced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Max Grosskreutz... favourite to win in 1936, but got injured and missed the qualifiers. He lent his bike to fellow Aussie Bluey Wilkinson, who raced to a 15-point-maximum at Wembley on his steed. Grosskreutz subsequently retired and became manager of Norwich. He raced the odd meeting for them, and made a brief comeback post-war. Edited April 4, 2019 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, norbold said: Tom Farndon....or doesn't it count if they died before the World Championship was introduced? Farndon's death was only the year before, so I'd say it counts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, norbold said: Tom Farndon....or doesn't it count if they died before the World Championship was introduced? You never disappoint! Just surprised it took you that long to comment... Seriously though, as was already mentioned, with the World Final only a year away, only a fool (of course, we have a few on here) would ever think that Tom wouldn't have been a multi-world finalist. Of course, it's hard to say if he would have still been around post-war, but I think he was young enough to have had a long and successful career. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, chunky said: You never disappoint! Just surprised it took you that long to comment... Seriously though, as was already mentioned, with the World Final only a year away, only a fool (of course, we have a few on here) would ever think that Tom wouldn't have been a multi-world finalist. Of course, it's hard to say if he would have still been around post-war, but I think he was young enough to have had a long and successful career. Steve I think there is no doubt he would have qualified in the three (four including 1939) pre-War years injuries permitting. He would have been 36 in 1946, the same age as Vic Duggan and five years younger than Jack Parker. Good call about Max Grosskreutz, LS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, norbold said: I think there is no doubt he would have qualified in the three (four including 1939) pre-War years injuries permitting. He would have been 36 in 1946, the same age as Vic Duggan and five years younger than Jack Parker. Even at the time of the 1949 final, several of the finalists on show were in their late 30's, and both Parkers, Lamoreaux, and Kitchen were in their 40's. Steve Edited April 5, 2019 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Garry Middleton gets my vote. Boy was he controversial, but he was also a fine rider for Hackney and Oxford at his peak. Also finished 3rd in the Internationale at Wimbledon when the lineup was arguably stronger than the World Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 12 hours ago, prodons said: Garry Middleton gets my vote. Boy was he controversial, but he was also a fine rider for Hackney and Oxford at his peak. Also finished 3rd in the Internationale at Wimbledon when the lineup was arguably stronger than the World Final. He certainly livened up Oxford when he rode as a 'Rebel' in 1972! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Martin Piddock and Peter Bradshaw . Two massive talents taken from us in the Lokkoren disaster. How Bob Kilby never made a World Final I shall never know. Not sure if John Boulger made one but he should have done. Ivor Brown was a hard man who was possibly on the cusp of big things before he was seriously injured. By and large though, I think under the old style single WF most who should have made it got there at least once as opposed the the GP system where for some it depends on whether your face fits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Martin Piddock and Peter Bradshaw . Two massive talents taken from us in the Lokkoren disaster. How Bob Kilby never made a World Final I shall never know. Not sure if John Boulger made one but he should have done. Ivor Brown was a hard man who was possibly on the cusp of big things before he was seriously injured. By and large though, I think under the old style single WF most who should have made it got there at least once as opposed the the GP system where for some it depends on whether your face fits. Pretty sure John Boulger made a Gotenburg final. Edited April 5, 2019 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Grachan said: Pretty sure John Boulger made a Gotenburg final. Just checked. He did actually make two WF’s in 73 and 77. He also did a number of World Pairs and Team cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Did Alan Grahame ever qualify for a final? Seem to recall him being reserve in 1984 and scoring a few points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 6, 2019 Report Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, prodons said: Did Alan Grahame ever qualify for a final? Seem to recall him being reserve in 1984 and scoring a few points. I seem to remember that he scored five points...I was there for that final. Edited April 6, 2019 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 6, 2019 Report Share Posted April 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Grachan said: Pretty sure John Boulger made a Gotenburg final. Yes during the 1977 World Final he was a leading a vital race but 'aquaplaned' and the following Ole Olsen did the same. Ivan Mauger was trailing but in the delayed re-reun (Boulger was excluded) he won thereby picking up his fifth title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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