Sidney the robin Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Terry said: To be fair Sidney, the five above him were better riders and Thommo will always be my number one. Totally agree Terry , Thommo is a shoe in yes Middleton with all his ability has to go down as a underachiever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Totally agree Terry , Thommo is a shoe in yes Middleton with all his ability has to go down as a underachiever. ...oh but what a character! Garry certainly left his mark on the sport with his 'misadvenetures' and people still talk about him after all this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, steve roberts said: ...oh but what a character! Garry certainly left his mark on the sport with his 'misadvenetures' and people still talk about him after all this time. I was always puzzled as a youngster about Garry Steve,because he seemed a happy go lucky chap when i see him ride.I have his prized autograph and always thought his reputation was false.In a way just like Jack Millen he had a fearsome reputation but people have commented on just how nice a guy Jack was he was great for helping young riders.Back to Middleton Steve how good was he ? you would know more than me on that score.He was really good for Oxford fast and aggressive it is such a shame how his life ended up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: I was always puzzled as a youngster about Garry Steve,because he seemed a happy go lucky chap when i see him ride.I have his prized autograph and always thought his reputation was false.In a way just like Jack Millen he had a fearsome reputation but people have commented on just how nice a guy Jack was he was great for helping young riders.Back to Middleton Steve how good was he ? you would know more than me on that score.He was really good for Oxford fast and aggressive it is such a shame how his life ended up. Yes Garry often had the better of Briggo when a 'Rebel' but often came unstuck when up against Martin Ashby. Thankfully my memories of speedway go beyond averages and heat wins or indeed the number of World titles achieved but the characters and memories that many riders evoked...great times! Edited March 22, 2019 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Split said: I imagine that the fact that we English often simply ignore the umlaut must be a constant source of irritation to German speakers. Iris is correct that Müller can be written as Mueller for those who haven't discovered the alt129 entry. Quite interesting on Facebook that the former Wimbledon rider has his name down as Schroeck but his wife has herself down as Schrock I think Edited March 22, 2019 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, iris123 said: Quite interesting on Facebook that the former Wimbledon rider has his name down as Schroeck but his wife has herself down as Schrock I think Then there was Max Schreck, who starred as the original Nosferatu... He would probably have scored more points for us - certainly a team spot would have been something to get his teeth into... Steve Edited March 22, 2019 by chunky 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Downes Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 7:32 AM, Sidney the robin said: Some really good riders there Andy do you remember Jack Bibby.?? Yes - he was coming to the end of his time at Crayford when I started going in 1980 but TBH I cannot really remember anything individual about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 10:31 AM, iris123 said: Quite interesting on Facebook that the former Wimbledon rider has his name down as Schroeck but his wife has herself down as Schrock I think ö=oe (in the German Alphabet) His name in German is Schröck, which can alternatively be wirtten as Schroeck (which is accepted as correct spelling), or You can just leave the two dots out and then Your get the name as Schrock (which is not quite the correct spelling). Same as with Michael Härtel, which in English should be written as Haertel, but is often written Hartel. Egon Müller, should actually always been Egon Mueller in (English), but is usually referred to as Egon Muller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyenz Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Eastbourne Ivan Mauger, Dave Jessup, Gordon Kennett, Martin Dugard, Nikki Pederson, Kelly Moran and Ron Preston All English Dave, Gordon and Martin, plus Dave Norris, Dean Barker, Joe Screen Paul Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Canterbury 1. Mike Ferreira 2. Ted Hubbard 3. Steve Koppe 4. Graham Banks 5. Les Rumsey 6. Barney Kennett 7. David Mullett 8. Martyn Piddock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I don't need much thinking to come up with mine. For all the racing talent the 80's-90's brought to Bradford. There's always only one 1-7 for me. BRADFORD NORTHERN 1970 Alan Knapkin Sid Sheldrick Gary Peterson Dave Schofield Alf Wells Alan Bridgett Peter Thompson ok and Robin Adlington as No 8 What a line up that was "a proper speedway team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Based upon those I actually saw race for Wolves 1: Ronnie Correy 2: Mikael Max 3: Tai Woffinden 4: Peter Karlsson 5: Sam Ermolenko 6: Freddie Lindgren 7: Lars Munkedal My first ever favorite rider was Dennis Sigalos but he didn't race for Wolves long enough to get in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BWitcher said: Based upon those I actually saw race for Wolves 1: Ronnie Correy 2: Mikael Max 3: Tai Woffinden 4: Peter Karlsson 5: Sam Ermolenko 6: Freddie Lindgren 7: Lars Munkedal My first ever favorite rider was Dennis Sigalos but he didn't race for Wolves long enough to get in this. Great lot really Witcher spot on , Sigalos was good and the the world of speedway was robbed .I am but surprised with Munkedal but i liked him though just like Glanz, Eskildsen, Nicholajsen( etc) they were very valuable riders. . Edited March 28, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Great lot really Witcher spot on , Sigalos was good and the the world of speedway was robbed .I am but surprised with Munkedal but i liked him though just like Glanz, Eskildsen, Nicholajsen( etc) they were very valuable riders. . Munkedal was a hero of mine, only reason I put him there That and his 11 from 4 when we won away at hyde Road in 1987. Otherwise it would be Sigalos or Bobby Schwartz at 7. I think Ronnie Correy could have achieved much more had it not been for his broken back. He was one of the top few riders in the league prior to that.. he could easily have put 5 starts together in a World Final and taken a title. When he returned he hadn't got the hunger on the world stage anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: Munkedal was a hero of mine, only reason I put him there That and his 11 from 4 when we won away at hyde Road in 1987. Otherwise it would be Sigalos or Bobby Schwartz at 7. I think Ronnie Correy could have achieved much more had it not been for his broken back. He was one of the top few riders in the league prior to that.. he could easily have put 5 starts together in a World Final and taken a title. When he returned he hadn't got the hunger on the world stage anymore. Sigalos was a rider i took to right from the start i remember him scoring a 15 point max from reserve at Swindon.He got better and progressed to world level and when he went to Wolves you could argue he was reaching his peak.Wolves a few riders I enjoyed watching were Rob Phetzing and Schwartz ( a great rider and awesome team man,) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, BWitcher said: Munkedal was a hero of mine, only reason I put him there That and his 11 from 4 when we won away at hyde Road in 1987. Otherwise it would be Sigalos or Bobby Schwartz at 7. I think Ronnie Correy could have achieved much more had it not been for his broken back. He was one of the top few riders in the league prior to that.. he could easily have put 5 starts together in a World Final and taken a title. When he returned he hadn't got the hunger on the world stage anymore. He was a poor rider when he signed for 'The Cheetahs' and even with the help and assistance of Hans Nielsen never adapted to Cowley and didn't last very long. Edited March 29, 2019 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: He was a poor rider when he signed for 'The Cheetahs' and even with the help and assistance of Hans Nielsen never adapted to Cowley and didn't last very long. Unlike Per Sorensen who was a revelation Hans helped put 1.5 on Per's average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 13 hours ago, BWitcher said: Munkedal was a hero of mine, only reason I put him there That and his 11 from 4 when we won away at hyde Road in 1987. Otherwise it would be Sigalos or Bobby Schwartz at 7. I think Ronnie Correy could have achieved much more had it not been for his broken back. He was one of the top few riders in the league prior to that.. he could easily have put 5 starts together in a World Final and taken a title. When he returned he hadn't got the hunger on the world stage anymore. I remember that meeting at Belle Vue - it was a double-header with Wolves and Oxford. We commented at the time how good it would be to have a reserve like Munkedal. The following year we had him and he was shocking. You'd have Hans Nielsen slowing down the whole race, by pinning the other two riders to the white line on the second bend in his trademark style, and Munkedal would turn the throttle off and stay at the back. Munkedal had some talent, but either lacked the belief or the desire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, lucifer sam said: I remember that meeting at Belle Vue - it was a double-header with Wolves and Oxford. We commented at the time how good it would be to have a reserve like Munkedal. The following year we had him and he was shocking. You'd have Hans Nielsen slowing down the whole race, by pinning the other two riders to the white line on the second bend in his trademark style, and Munkedal would turn the throttle off and stay at the back. Munkedal had some talent, but either lacked the belief or the desire. Yes, a double header it was. League Cup semi or Final wasn't it? Didn't Marvyn Cox have a good meeting? Lars was very erratic. Great gater but as you say something was missing. There were a couple of times he seemed on the verge of taking the next step, but had an injury that stopped him in his tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Yes, a double header it was. League Cup semi or Final wasn't it? Didn't Marvyn Cox have a good meeting? Lars was very erratic. Great gater but as you say something was missing. There were a couple of times he seemed on the verge of taking the next step, but had an injury that stopped him in his tracks. Cocker was bloody amazing in that meeting - I remember his full throttle battle with Chris Morton. Awesome! Munkedal just never got it going at Oxford. Normally, Hans could take a fellow Dane and get him to up his performance. Per Sorensen was the classic example. For some reason, it just didn't happen with Lars. We probably should have dropped him before we did. I can understand why he was more popular with the Wolves' fans - especially as he was part of the '91 championship side. Edited March 29, 2019 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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