customhouseregular Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 If this has been done before I apologise and please ignore. Covering all years and eras what would be your club's all-time top team...3 heat leaders, 3 second strings and 2 reserves? My choice...West Ham. Heat leaders...Bluey Wilkinson, Jack Young, Bjorn Knutsson Second strings...Bengt Jansson, Sverre Harrfeldt, Aub Lawson Reserves...Christer Lofqvist, Malcolm Simmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, customhouseregular said: If this has been done before I apologise and please ignore. Covering all years and eras what would be your club's all-time top team...3 heat leaders, 3 second strings and 2 reserves? My choice...West Ham. Heat leaders...Bluey Wilkinson, Jack Young, Bjorn Knutsson Second strings...Bengt Jansson, Sverre Harrfeldt, Aub Lawson Reserves...Christer Lofqvist, Malcolm Simmons Tough when you can't find a place for Hurri-ken! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Swindon.. Briggs Adams Ashby Crump Broadbanks Kilby Ward Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 It's pretty hard for me to include riders I've never seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Terry Betts Michael Lee Henka Gustafsson Bo Brhel Robert Lambert Tomas Topinka Niels Kristian Iversen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, auntie doris said: Swindon.. Briggs Adams Ashby Crump Broadbanks Kilby Ward Doyle Spot on Doris great lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Difficult one...I have to base it on riders I saw riding for Oxford (British League eras) during my time following the sport. In no particular order...Nielsen, Middleton, Wigg, D.Lovaas, Kennett, Holmqvuist, Kilby. Tomorrow I'd probably come up with a different list!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 The problem I have with this is, do you mean when they were actually riding for the club, or over their whole career? My best example of this would be Split Waterman. If it was over his whole career he would certainly make my New Cross team, but if we are just talking about the period he was actually at New Cross, probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, steve roberts said: Difficult one...I have to base it on riders I saw riding for Oxford (British League eras) during my time following the sport. In no particular order...Nielsen, Middleton, Wigg, D.Lovaas, Kennett, Holmqvuist, Kilby. Tomorrow I'd probably come up with a different list!! Nielsen, Pander, Middleton, Pedersen, Hancock, Lovaas, Wigg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Nielsen, Pander, Middleton, Pedersen, Hancock, Lovaas, Wigg. I never saw Pander ride but I remember mum saying that he was a regular at the local Health Centre where she worked during his time at Oxford. He was very unlucky with injuries and many feel that he could have gone on to greater achievements if things had been different. I was never a fan of Pedersen...and he departed Oxford under controversial circumstances. In Ice Hockey terms he was a bit of a 'goon' in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, steve roberts said: I never saw Pander ride but I remember mum saying that he was a regular at the local Health Centre where she worked during his time at Oxford. He was very unlucky with injuries and many feel that he could have gone on to greater achievements if things had been different. I was never a fan of Pedersen...and he departed Oxford under controversial circumstances. In Ice Hockey terms he was a bit of a 'goon' in my opinion. Pander for me is in a group with Harrefeldt, Harrysson, who were very unlucky with injuries which hindered there progress on the world stage.Pedersen as a rider i never took to and out of the five best riders of his generation Ricko, Crump, Gollob, Hancock all are ahead of him in my opinion.But you cannot take away what he has achieved in his chosen sport maybe debatable at times how he conducted himself but his achievements are terrific.I actually met Nicki once at Swindon and he was a really nice bloke down to earth and had time for people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
847084 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) RidersI have seen : Olsen Ermolenko NIelsen Woffinden PK Lindgren MIkael Max Tempted by Dennis Sigalos but stuck with longer serving Wolves riders. Edited March 13, 2019 by 847084 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, norbold said: The problem I have with this is, do you mean when they were actually riding for the club, or over their whole career? My best example of this would be Split Waterman. If it was over his whole career he would certainly make my New Cross team, but if we are just talking about the period he was actually at New Cross, probably not. I am a bit confused at how to put a team together.I am wondering if the riders actually have to have ridden in that position for a team,rather than just listing 7/8 best riders?For instance the inclusion of Banger troubles me,because I didn't think he was that great when he rode for the Hammers and developed into a top rider later.Simmo,i think did ride as reserve for West Ham,but did Löfqvist? That might explain the absence of better riders like McKinlay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, iris123 said: I am a bit confused at how to put a team together.I am wondering if the riders actually have to have ridden in that position for a team,rather than just listing 7/8 best riders?For instance the inclusion of Banger troubles me,because I didn't think he was that great when he rode for the Hammers and developed into a top rider later.Simmo,i think did ride as reserve for West Ham,but did Löfqvist? That might explain the absence of better riders like McKinlay I think CHR meant the eight greatest of all time and then grade them as if they were in one team together. The point you make about Banger is what I meant and I agree. Malcolm Simmons started out as a reserve but worked his way up to heat leader with West Ham, but his best days came after he left the Hammers, so he is another in the Split/Banger category. Lofqvist was always a heat leader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, norbold said: I think CHR meant the eight greatest of all time and then grade them as if they were in one team together. The point you make about Banger is what I meant and I agree. Malcolm Simmons started out as a reserve but worked his way up to heat leader with West Ham, but his best days came after he left the Hammers, so he is another in the Split/Banger category. Lofqvist was always a heat leader. Thanks Norbold.The Lofqvist situation was the one that was confusing me most.I think when Tommy Jansson first came to Wembley he was down at reserve,so thought maybe Christer was at West Ham.Then it would all fit into place.In fact I think it would be more interesting to make a team up of the best riders who actually rode certain positions,rather than the best 7 or 8 riders.Tatum for instance one of the best reserves I saw at Wimbledon,but not one of the best 7 riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 hours ago, norbold said: The problem I have with this is, do you mean when they were actually riding for the club, or over their whole career? My best example of this would be Split Waterman. If it was over his whole career he would certainly make my New Cross team, but if we are just talking about the period he was actually at New Cross, probably not. Over their whole career. If only during their Hammers spell or only riders I personally saw, I would have a different 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Riders I've seen for the Dons in no particular order. O.Nygren, T.Hedge, R.Moore, T.Jansson, B.Briggs, E.Jancarz & one of Ross, Jessup or Simmo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, customhouseregular said: Over their whole career. If only during their Hammers spell or only riders I personally saw, I would have a different 8. Thanks CHR. If it's over their whole career, then: Heat Leaders: Tom Farndon, Barry Briggs, Jack Milne Second Strings: Split Waterman, Lionel Van Praag, Ron Johnson Reserves: Cyril Roger, Eric Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Thanks Norbold.The Lofqvist situation was the one that was confusing me most.I think when Tommy Jansson first came to Wembley he was down at reserve,so thought maybe Christer was at West Ham.Then it would all fit into place.In fact I think it would be more interesting to make a team up of the best riders who actually rode certain positions,rather than the best 7 or 8 riders.Tatum for instance one of the best reserves I saw at Wimbledon,but not one of the best 7 riders Yeah, I was there for Christer's debut in 1970, when he scored 7 points in the main body of the team (which wasn't too strong). He maintained that form all year, and ended with a near 8-point average. His worst season was his last, at Hackney, and still averaged over 7 1/2. Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, chunky said: Yeah, I was there for Christer's debut in 1970, when he scored 7 points in the main body of the team (which wasn't too strong). He maintained that form all year, and ended with a near 8-point average. His worst season was his last, at Hackney, and still averaged over 7 1/2. Steve ...of which probably his best score that year was registering 13 points against Oxford which I witnessed in 1975. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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