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3 hours ago, ouch said:

The last truly great UK speedway team. Over 20 year ago. Ouch. 

I don't know about that, there's been some pretty decent teams since.

Wolves 2016 top five of Lindgren, Woffy, Peter Karlsson, Masters and Thorssell.

It was only just over 2 years ago but sounds like someone's dream team now

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17 hours ago, ouch said:

The last truly great UK speedway team. Over 20 year ago. Ouch. 

Magic holder ward, probably the closest trip in recent memory!

will never forget the season of 98, not only were Ricksrdssson gollob and Louis an imperious top 3 Scotty emerged that season and as a young lad Toni svab was my favourite rider!

The only real disappointment was savalas clouting not being able to fulfil his undoubted natural talent - never got his confidence back after a couple of hefty crashes sadly

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Gordon Kennett, Kelly Moran & Ron Preston (Eastbourne) in 1982 was a pretty impressive threesome. However after Paul Woods there was very little else to offer!

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51 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

Gordon Kennett, Kelly Moran & Ron Preston (Eastbourne) in 1982 was a pretty impressive threesome. However after Paul Woods there was very little else to offer!

and far from being the top hl trio that season. penhall gundersen grahame and ross morton collins definitely stronger.

and you could argue olsen, knudsen, shirra or sigalos cook eriksen were comparable.

none of those sides had a bottom.three as weak as eastborne though, albeit Cradley had equally rubbish reserves.

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39 minutes ago, waiheke1 said:

and far from being the top hl trio that season. penhall gundersen grahame and ross morton collins definitely stronger.

and you could argue olsen, knudsen, shirra or sigalos cook eriksen were comparable.

none of those sides had a bottom.three as weak as eastborne though, albeit Cradley had equally rubbish reserves.

I wasn't actually suggesting that they were the best that season although the three Eastbourne lads registered averages all over nine points a meeting unlike those at Belle Vue, Coventry and Ipswich. Eastbourne's tail end let them down badly as I intimated and it's something that Ron Preston was quoted as saying same in an interview in 'Backtrack' some years ago.

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Probably the best team I can remember the Stars ever having was back in '72  when our team was Betts;  Simmo; Howard Cole as heat leaders  Phil Crump and Ian Turner as 2nd strings, with Bob Humphries and Barry Crowson as reserves.   A strong team by any standards,  but we still weren't good enough to win...:(

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On 2/16/2019 at 6:55 AM, 89buttons said:

Magic holder ward, probably the closest trip in recent memory!

will never forget the season of 98, not only were Ricksrdssson gollob and Louis an imperious top 3 Scotty emerged that season and as a young lad Toni svab was my favourite rider!

The only real disappointment was savalas clouting not being able to fulfil his undoubted natural talent - never got his confidence back after a couple of hefty crashes sadly

In my living memory the team of 98 for Ippo was the strongest I can remember. Only other team I can remember close to that would be one of the Cradley teams of the 80’s.

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After 98 along came the lesser known at the time east anglian elite league team containing Crump, Sullivan and the unsung Tesar to win the EL Championship, KO Cup, Craven Shield and provide the riders champion and all with around half of the team that dominated the Premier League the season before those were the days when speedway was proper speedway

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2 hours ago, Wolfie456 said:

Hard to say being a wolves fan but that Cradley team in the 80s not sure of year with Ravn and Jan O Pedersen at reserve has to be strongest I've ever seen they would hit 55 pts every home match and only 13 heats those days.

Yes that was quite a team - 1983? -  Gundersen, Wigg, King with Alan Grahame and Phil Collins as 2nd strings. Think a young Simon Cross got a few meetings too?

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6 minutes ago, Bryce said:

Cross was the number 8 in the squad I believe. Jan O finished the season at number 7 in the averages on a 7+ figure. Lance King rode at number 2 partnering Wiggy, with Collins and Grahame at 4 and 5.  An amazing team. 

Phil Crump scored a full maximum against them though!

My selective memory has conveniently forgotten what the rest of the Swindon team scored in that match!

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49 minutes ago, Bryce said:

Cross was the number 8 in the squad I believe. Jan O finished the season at number 7 in the averages on a 7+ figure. Lance King rode at number 2 partnering Wiggy, with Collins and Grahame at 4 and 5.  An amazing team. 

Best team ever (through gritted teeth). Everything just clicked.

And yet on paper, Wigg was stepping up a division and was still relatively unproven at top level, Pedersen was a raw debutant, Ravn was dropped and unwanted by Belle Vue and King started the season as a very young second string still establishing himself. But they were all absolutely brilliant - even the existing spine of the team Gundersen, Collins and Grahame stepped up a another level.

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Ipswich all round double winning team from 84 deserves a mention , 

Sanders and Knight  1-2 

Cook and Doncaster 5-4 

But Kai Niemi ( replacing Siggy ) was a revelation at the number 3 position 

Great team  !.

..Back on topic, I'd say Wolves have the strongest 3 on paper 

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Baring mind i'm on the last bit of a70cl bottle .So allow me some slack lads for a bit of fun...  :blink: 4 or 5 rides will cross over all the time. so from 14 rides. top 3 riders by ave.

Swindon Home 31

Away  26

 

P boro Home 28

Away 25

 

Wolves Home 28

Away 25 

 

BV Home 29

Away 24

Would never rule Poole out of anything though. But gave up :)

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Swindon 24.01

Wolves 23.28

So not way ahead.

But in Doyle, Swindon have a rider who can win heats 13 & 15 at any track.  Something Wolves lack.  Both are probably past their peak but Batchelor is a few years younger than Schlien, and Batchelor is still competing in Poland & Sweden not the Championship.  Batchelor was also a GP rider for a couple of years something Schlien never was or will be.  Would suggest there is probably a little more to come from Musielak, not convinced there is from Thorsell.

Strangely if someone had asked who have the strongest top 4, I'd probably have gone for Wolves.

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