Baldyman Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 I know this will sound a bit harsh but,, if anyone pays money to go and watch these meetings they doing speedway no favours at all. It really does show those in charge can do anything they want and people will still turn up and watch it. People like that are a big reason why speedway is nearly dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I know this will sound a bit harsh but,, if anyone pays money to go and watch these meetings they doing speedway no favours at all. It really does show those in charge can do anything they want and people will still turn up and watch it. People like that are a big reason why speedway is nearly dead. Why are they calling it the supporters cup when so many supporters seem against it and most certainly have not voted for it , maybe when it fails miserably then they can blame the fans for it . It should be renamed BSPA bright idea cup and see if they can get BIC pens to sponsor it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 As I've said, some fans will turn up for anything at any price. Can you imagine going to a football cup match and the crowd the decide who takes the penalties for your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 lemmings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 The Lemmings Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Maybe given the demographic of its fan base, the sport would be better off letting fans train their own pigeon to take their selection up to the referees box attached to their pigeon's feet? Maybe there could then be a prize of two tickets to the next Cup match to the owner of the pigeon that has come from furthest away?... Think of the excitement it would generate... Maybe one of those representing the supporters clubs at that BSPA think tank thing could suggest it? Obviously it won't be completely straight forward, as if your pigeon is injured and cannot fly on any given night, something like a wing injury or damaged shank, or your pigeon is already competing in a race over mainland Europe on the same night. Then there would need to be some kind of 'guest pigeon' system required to ensure everyone has a chance... Based on speed, colour and weight of the pigeons, and their previous performances I would personally suggest.... However I am sure a workable solution could be found... No ideas a bad idea etc etc etc.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Baldyman said: I know this will sound a bit harsh but,, if anyone pays money to go and watch these meetings they doing speedway no favours at all. It really does show those in charge can do anything they want and people will still turn up and watch it. People like that are a big reason why speedway is nearly dead. It’s a catch 22 tho, if people stop going then speedway in the uk will also be dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Baldyman said: As I've said, some fans will turn up for anything at any price. Can you imagine going to a football cup match and the crowd the decide who takes the penalties for your team. as you say if some supporters will turn up for anything just think if we didn't you would not have nothing to moan about just saying no speedway at all then happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 10:44 AM, Bavarian said: Total rubbish this. The team manager alone should decide. Imagine this in any other sport, supporters voting for player's substitutions in Football. Come on, man!!! This is another unneeded gimmick. The BSPA is making a mockery of this once great sport of speedway racing. Just as bad as the Golden Joker for double points. I for one can't take this Supporters Cup serious. Too bad the traditional Knock-Out Cup has been sacrificed for that. Eddie Waring and Stuart Hall would have been perfect for this nonsense. Perhaps pearson and Tatum could fill in as guest replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, 89buttons said: It’s a catch 22 tho, if people stop going then speedway in the uk will also be dead It's already brain dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Any more news regarding this mickey mouse cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hopefully the majority of fans who go to support their team, don't visit this forum. All this negativity is no good for our sport. The simple answer is. Back Speedway or lose it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I think people will like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 11:48 AM, hyderd said: Hopefully the majority of fans who go to support their team, don't visit this forum. All this negativity is no good for our sport. The simple answer is. Back Speedway or lose it. It's already dead in London and the majority of the south east. I've always backed my local tracks, but I'm in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Even though clubs are folding and have folded because people don't do,,, people still are not and won't be going. When it's said use or lose it,, some would still rather lose it. That's how little appeal speedway has now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 The reason for the decline for me is the sport no longer has anything left for the supporters to get ramped up about. The whole working man's aspect has disappeared. Rider punch ups, deliberate fencing, aggressive racing, argumentative managers with referee's etc. It's all gone. The sport is to clean cut, rider's all mate's. No passing is attempted much unless an easy opportunity presents itself. For the supporters, more often than not you part with your hard earned, listen to abysmal centre green presentation, abysmal music, abysmal processional racing, abysmal atmosphere but people claim £17-£18 is cheap for a "professional" sport?!?!? The sport currently, is so abysmal, many wouldn't part with a £1 on a weekly basis with the extra costs of meeting day fuel, food and drink etc. British Speedway is in an absolute quagmire and there's absolutely no chance of a fix. British Speedway is 'bleeding out' and waiting for it's last breath to be taken. I firmly now believe that the promoters know then end is coming and are intentionally winding down the sport until it's completely unviable. Clubs are now closing as buyers are impossible to come by. I think we just have to get into the mind set for the inevitable. Those that still get enjoyment will continue, those that don't will never return, that's where we are, the point of no return folks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: The reason for the decline for me is the sport no longer has anything left for the supporters to get ramped up about. The whole working man's aspect has disappeared. Rider punch ups, deliberate fencing, aggressive racing, argumentative managers with referee's etc. It's all gone. The sport is to clean cut, rider's all mate's. No passing is attempted much unless an easy opportunity presents itself. For the supporters, more often than not you part with your hard earned, listen to abysmal centre green presentation, abysmal music, abysmal processional racing, abysmal atmosphere but people claim £17-£18 is cheap for a "professional" sport?!?!? The sport currently, is so abysmal, many wouldn't part with a £1 on a weekly basis with the extra costs of meeting day fuel, food and drink etc. British Speedway is in an absolute quagmire and there's absolutely no chance of a fix. British Speedway is 'bleeding out' and waiting for it's last breath to be taken. I firmly now believe that the promoters know then end is coming and are intentionally winding down the sport until it's completely unviable. Clubs are now closing as buyers are impossible to come by. I think we just have to get into the mind set for the inevitable. Those that still get enjoyment will continue, those that don't will never return, that's where we are, the point of no return folks. Racing at the NSS is anything but boring, even from the gate races are close, and I firmly believe that other tracks that once provided good exciting races still can if prepared better. As for promoters intentionally winding it down, do me a favour, nobody intentionally throws good money after bad. I heard our promoters have a 5 year plan to turn Belle Vue round, I sincerely hope they can. As for the cost, when compared to other professional sports Speedway is relatively cheap, it's the extras that one can do without to keep one's cost down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) So the Nss provides good racing,, how big are the crowds?? And how many people live in and around Manchester? Edited February 11, 2019 by Baldyman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: So the Nss provides good racing,, how big are the crowds?? And how many people live in and around Manchester? The sport is on a downward spiral and there is nobody out there who has the power or knowhow to fix it fullstop . I would imagine in 10 years time we will be lucky if there are enough teams to run a 4TT event . I'm afraid it's just a gradual wind down. The sport needs a lot of radical changes to survive costs have got be cut, it doesn't matter who you support or you have of the better stadiums at the moment .The simple fact is the sport is already on it's knee's and there is no easy way to rescue it from the inevitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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