greyhoundp Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Our neighbour in Newcastle has just had her Aussie Nephew across and he has had a 12 month visit on a none working visa. His mum is a Brit but he was born in Oz and is an Aussie Citizen yet he still needed a visa and I think the neighbour had to vouch for him as well (may be wrong) but he used her address as his temp/perm UK address. The criteria was he couldn't take paid employment! Not sure if Josh is coming over on something like this and he could still mechanic and ride as long as there is no official payments. (Which sounds about right for Speedway) Regards THJ Yes but i would have thought his original Visa would have been issued for employment specifically for Workington, that sponsor no longer exists he runs the risk of being refused entry if he does not change his visa to a Tourist/None working visa.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 hours ago, greyhoundp said: Yes but i would have thought his original Visa would have been issued for employment specifically for Workington, that sponsor no longer exists he runs the risk of being refused entry if he does not change his visa to a Tourist/None working visa.. Yep don't disagree in fact I would say you are correct. I am only guessing but I would assume that it's the working visa that needs a sponsor which makes sense. So he can still get over it's just that officially he won't be allowed to work. Holiday/non working visas are not that hard to obtain. However the whole idea was for Josh to race and to earn a living until the unfortunate demise of Worky... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 wasnt there a certain aussie who came over on a holiday visa and rode a few meetings for workington , or was it just one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Have not read the thread, but why can't Holder ride here..A former world champ. What has he done wrong ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 21 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Have not read the thread, but why can't Holder ride here..A former world champ. What has he done wrong ?? As far as I'm aware he could, but nobody seemed to want him. therefore no sponsor no visa. He'll be okay to ride in europe though where visa restrictions aren't as strict. last year I think his problems were more of a personal nature involving access to his son, rather than purely a work visa issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Can't believe the problems You have with the visas for Your British Commonwealth Australian brothers. Yet, here doesn't seem to be such problems if an Aussie comes over to base himself and ride in Poland or Sweden or anywhere else in the EU! Why??? How is this Problem solved in other professional sports in the UK, like in football, rugby or cricket? Do they have the same visa problems as speedway has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bavarian said: Can't believe the problems You have with the visas for Your British Commonwealth Australian brothers. Yet, here doesn't seem to be such problems if an Aussie comes over to base himself and ride in Poland or Sweden or anywhere else in the EU! Why??? How is this Problem solved in other professional sports in the UK, like in football, rugby or cricket? Do they have the same visa problems as speedway has? A fair question. As the EU is supposed to be a free market for labour, the UK restrictions brought in six or seven years back by a new-broom Home Secretary (a certain Mrs T May) are clearly different to those for the rest of the EU, and probably illegal in EU law. As for other sports, I question how it is that British ice hockey teams are almost entirely staffed by Canadian players, without any apparent problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, crescent girl said: A fair question. As the EU is supposed to be a free market for labour, the UK restrictions brought in six or seven years back by a new-broom Home Secretary (a certain Mrs T May) are clearly different to those for the rest of the EU, and probably illegal in EU law. We opted out of the Schengen agreement, hence why this is not illegal in the UK Edited January 27, 2019 by tyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Bavarian said: Can't believe the problems You have with the visas for Your British Commonwealth Australian brothers. Yet, here doesn't seem to be such problems if an Aussie comes over to base himself and ride in Poland or Sweden or anywhere else in the EU! Why??? How is this Problem solved in other professional sports in the UK, like in football, rugby or cricket? Do they have the same visa problems as speedway has? They can base themselves in UK but they can't earn money by working in the UK. If they earn it abroad (i.e. the EU) and spend it here that's fine. As for other sports there are qualifying criteria for those as well as speedway. You don't find many non-EU footballers in the the lower leagues, only (mainly) in the top two divisions. Lower down they are not deemed good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Football clubs don't seem to have problems signing sixteen year olds from abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, tyretrax said: Football clubs don't seem to have problems signing sixteen year olds from abroad. I'd be interested if you could site an example of a non-eu 16 yo citizen to a UK professional football contract to back up your claim Edited January 28, 2019 by tyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, tyke said: I'd be interested if you could site an example of a non-eu 16 yo citizen to a professional football contract to back up your claim Does this count? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiL7Pu5y5DgAhVGblAKHTAmDc4QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportskeeda.com%2Ffootball%2Fwhat-are-the-contents-of-messi-s-first-contract-with-barcelona-which-was-written-on-a-napkin&psig=AOvVaw1suFhb1WQsqUpNpASKfup9&ust=1548768781958026 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, iris123 said: Does this count? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiL7Pu5y5DgAhVGblAKHTAmDc4QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportskeeda.com%2Ffootball%2Fwhat-are-the-contents-of-messi-s-first-contract-with-barcelona-which-was-written-on-a-napkin&psig=AOvVaw1suFhb1WQsqUpNpASKfup9&ust=1548768781958026 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/work-permit-issues-prevented-lionel-messi-becoming-arsenal-player But ironically he would have needed a work permit for the UK which he would have failed to obtain I have edited my question above for clarity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 7:49 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Saw a tweet from Josh MacDonald quoted on the BSPA site that he intends to still travel to Britain , pick up his visa and look for opportunities through the summer Is this actually possible?? Given his sponsoring employer is not trading I assumed his visa would be invalid If it is still valid and issued then I understood the sponsor had to provide accomodation and a regular income (something like a min £150 per week) I cant imagine this would be the case in the circumstances Anyone able to clarity the realities of the situation According to this week's Star (07 feb) josh has a british grandmother. Therefore he is entitled to an Ancestory Visa which is valid for five years. All he has to do is come over and collect it. Presumably it enables him to do just about any job he wants (?) and as such he doesn't need a work sponsor. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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