Bagpuss Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 7:33 AM, g13webb said: Whatever would that result say about Buster? Owning 3 teams out of 7 and not one in the top 4. I think the Panthers will be his saviour, finishing in the top 4 , but who win the PO is a sheer lottery..... Like him or loathe him, without him owning three teams there would be no Play Offs to get into because there would be no Premiership. Whether that would be a good thing or not is up for debate. Probably no surprise though that a man spreading his money three ways hasn’t produced a particularly fancied team - not that that necessarily means anything anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 11:16 AM, Bagpuss said: Like him or loathe him, without him owning three teams there would be no Play Offs to get into because there would be no Premiership. Whether that would be a good thing or not is up for debate. Probably no surprise though that a man spreading his money three ways hasn’t produced a particularly fancied team - not that that necessarily means anything anyway. We would be better without a Premiership and have all clubs running at one level that is achievable by all so the level would be Championship at best and would increase the number of British NL riders in the league. All tracks should vote if they wanted a Premiership but they don't get that option so Buster and one other have taken control regardless of what the others want or even get a say in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Well I think all the premiership teams are fair and even and by first bsa average shuffle ,any 7 stand a chance,it’s just some typical British supporters ,never happy and love to whinge and complain, stay at home and eat ya muffins and drink ya hot beer,as I have said before go the witches! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Belle Vue Poole Peterborough Wolves Swindon Ipswich Kings Lynn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Aces Stars Witches Pirates Panthers Robins Wolves No 1 HL Max Friske Rob Lambert Chris Harris Jack Holder Craig Cook Jason Doyle Sam Masters preferrence 3 2 6 7 4 1 5 No 2 HL Dan Bewley Ty Procter Danny King JosGrajczonk HanAndersen TroyBatchelor Rory Schlein preferrence 3 7 5 6 2 1 4 No 3 HL Kenneth Bjerre Erik Riss Krz Pieszczek Brady Kurtz Ronan Tungate Tob Musielak Jacob Thorsell preferrence 3 7 4 6 1 5 2 No4 S/S Stev Worrall T Jorgensen Richard Lawson Nicolai Klindt B W D Adam Ellis Nick Morris preferrence 3 6 5 2 7 4 1 No 5 S/S Ricky Wells MPT David Bellego Richie Worell Charles Wright David Lampart Kyle Howarth preferrence 5 7 6 2 1 4 3 No 6 Res Dimitri Berge Lewis kerr Jake Allen Nico Covatti Lasse Bjerre Zach Wajknec Luke Becker preferrence 4 5 2 1 3 6 7 No 7 Res Jaimon Lidsey Kas Andersen Cameron Heeps Busk Jacobsen Ben Barker James Shane Ash Morris preferrence 7 5 4 1 3 2 6 Totals 28 39 32 25 21 23 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 It’s raining outside, the wife gone shopping, with an hour or so to kill, my thought turned to speedway and the coming year in the Premiership. I have always tried to be realistic and show an illustration of my thoughts on how the team compare. In the table above I have placed all the riders in the starting position of their respective teams and made comparisons with each of the opposite numbers. I have given the best rider 1 and placed them in order, the worse getting 7. At the end of the placements, I have then totalled all teams to get their final score, the lowest being the best and again the highest being the worse.. Results show, the Panthers are top, followed closely by Swindon and Poole with Wolves and Belle Vue contesting that last play-off place. Both Ipswich and Stars are well adrift. Studying the table illustrate the different ways the teams have been made up. Some prefer to go with being top heavy, others, like Poole, have gone for strong reserves. Belle Vue have gone for a solid 1 to 6, all they need is for Lidsey to come on good and they will be in prime position. Although both Ipswich and the Stars are some way short of the rest, all they need is another TOP rider to bring them into the frame. For example bring in Niels at 2, would in affect push everyone down a place, when the comparisons would fair better... Hope you enjoyed the illustration....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 It’s raining outside, the wife gone shopping, with an hour or so to kill, my thought turned to speedway and the coming year in the Premiership. I have always tried to be realistic and show an illustration of my thoughts on how the team compare. In the table above I have placed all the riders in the starting position of their respective teams and made comparisons with each of the opposite numbers. I have given the best rider 1 and placed them in order, the worse getting 7. At the end of the placements, I have then totalled all teams to get their final score, the lowest being the best and again the highest being the worse.. Results show, the Panthers are top, followed closely by Swindon and Poole with Wolves and Belle Vue contesting that last play-off place. Both Ipswich and Stars are well adrift. Studying the table illustrate the different ways the teams have been made up. Some prefer to go with being top heavy, others, like Poole, have gone for strong reserves. Belle Vue have gone for a solid 1 to 6, all they need is for Lidsey to come on good and they will be in prime position. Although both Ipswich and the Stars are some way short of the rest, all they need is another TOP rider to bring them into the frame. For example bring in Niels at 2, would in affect push everyone down a place, when the comparisons would fair better... Hope you enjoyed the illustration....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, g13webb said: It’s raining outside, the wife gone shopping, with an hour or so to kill, my thought turned to speedway and the coming year in the Premiership. I have always tried to be realistic and show an illustration of my thoughts on how the team compare. In the table above I have placed all the riders in the starting position of their respective teams and made comparisons with each of the opposite numbers. I have given the best rider 1 and placed them in order, the worse getting 7. At the end of the placements, I have then totalled all teams to get their final score, the lowest being the best and again the highest being the worse.. Results show, the Panthers are top, followed closely by Swindon and Poole with Wolves and Belle Vue contesting that last play-off place. Both Ipswich and Stars are well adrift. Studying the table illustrate the different ways the teams have been made up. Some prefer to go with being top heavy, others, like Poole, have gone for strong reserves. Belle Vue have gone for a solid 1 to 6, all they need is for Lidsey to come on good and they will be in prime position. Although both Ipswich and the Stars are some way short of the rest, all they need is another TOP rider to bring them into the frame. For example bring in Niels at 2, would in affect push everyone down a place, when the comparisons would fair better... Hope you enjoyed the illustration....... Some really interesting views there the four riders that i think could make or break a teams fortunes are Morris- Holder-Kurtz- Lidsey and the four riders i think could be vulnerable are Proctor- Wells- Barker- K.Andersen. Edited March 5, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, g13webb said: It’s raining outside, the wife gone shopping, with an hour or so to kill, my thought turned to speedway and the coming year in the Premiership. I have always tried to be realistic and show an illustration of my thoughts on how the team compare. In the table above I have placed all the riders in the starting position of their respective teams and made comparisons with each of the opposite numbers. I have given the best rider 1 and placed them in order, the worse getting 7. At the end of the placements, I have then totalled all teams to get their final score, the lowest being the best and again the highest being the worse.. Results show, the Panthers are top, followed closely by Swindon and Poole with Wolves and Belle Vue contesting that last play-off place. Both Ipswich and Stars are well adrift. Studying the table illustrate the different ways the teams have been made up. Some prefer to go with being top heavy, others, like Poole, have gone for strong reserves. Belle Vue have gone for a solid 1 to 6, all they need is for Lidsey to come on good and they will be in prime position. Although both Ipswich and the Stars are some way short of the rest, all they need is another TOP rider to bring them into the frame. For example bring in Niels at 2, would in affect push everyone down a place, when the comparisons would fair better... Hope you enjoyed the illustration....... Do you really think Wolves have by far the worst reserve pairing? Ash Morris spent a chunk of last season as a second string and still had a higher average than the likes of James Shames. Luke Becker is something of an unknown quantity but I have a feeling he will be better than you suggest. The other ones that stand out like a sore thumb are Lidsey, is he really going to be the worst rider in the league!!! And James Shanes the second best no 7, really? Edited March 5, 2019 by Call me wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Call me wolfie said: Do you really think Wolves have by far the worst reserve pairing? Ash Morris spent a chunk of last season as a second string and still had a higher average than the likes of James Shames. Luke Becker is something of an unknown quantity but I have a feeling he will be better than you suggest. The other ones that stand out like a sore thumb are Lidsey, is he really going to be the worst rider in the league!!! And James Shanes the second best no 7, really? I think Ashley morris and james shanes will improve barring injuries of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, g13webb said: Aces Stars Witches Pirates Panthers Robins Wolves No 1 HL Max Friske Rob Lambert Chris Harris Jack Holder Craig Cook Jason Doyle Sam Masters preferrence 3 2 6 7 4 1 5 No 2 HL Dan Bewley Ty Procter Danny King JosGrajczonk HanAndersen TroyBatchelor Rory Schlein preferrence 3 7 5 6 2 1 4 No 3 HL Kenneth Bjerre Erik Riss Krz Pieszczek Brady Kurtz Ronan Tungate Tob Musielak Jacob Thorsell preferrence 3 7 4 6 1 5 2 No4 S/S Stev Worrall T Jorgensen Richard Lawson Nicolai Klindt B W D Adam Ellis Nick Morris preferrence 3 6 5 2 7 4 1 No 5 S/S Ricky Wells MPT David Bellego Richie Worell Charles Wright David Lampart Kyle Howarth preferrence 5 7 6 2 1 4 3 No 6 Res Dimitri Berge Lewis kerr Jake Allen Nico Covatti Lasse Bjerre Zach Wajknec Luke Becker preferrence 4 5 2 1 3 6 7 No 7 Res Jaimon Lidsey Kas Andersen Cameron Heeps Busk Jacobsen Ben Barker James Shane Ash Morris preferrence 7 5 4 1 3 2 6 Totals 28 39 32 25 21 23 28 Sorry to put a spanner in all your hard work but Cook and Tungate should be the other way around for Peterborough as Tungate starts the season at No: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Sorry to put a spanner in all your hard work but Cook and Tungate should be the other way around for Peterborough as Tungate starts the season at No: 1 Surely Cook should be NO;1 by his actual average and Tungate should not be classed as No;1 as his average is below Cook's , my understanding is the 2.5 % reduction is for team building purposes only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: Surely Cook should be NO;1 by his actual average and Tungate should not be classed as No;1 as his average is below Cook's , my understanding is the 2.5 % reduction is for team building purposes only. Correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: Surely Cook should be NO;1 by his actual average and Tungate should not be classed as No;1 as his average is below Cook's , my understanding is the 2.5 % reduction is for team building purposes only. This may be correct but the facts are that Tungate will start the season at number 1 so in the table produced he should be judged along with the other starting number ones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: This may be correct but the facts are that Tungate will start the season at number 1 so in the table produced he should be judged along with the other starting number ones Wrong, actual GSA's are used therefore Cook will start as no 1. As previously stated the 2.5% reduction is for team building purposes only, not to decide rider positions Craig Cook = 7.73 Rohan Tungate = 7.61 Edited March 5, 2019 by Call me wolfie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Why did the Panthers press release announcement name Tungate as No.1 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Wrong, actual GSA's are used therefore Cook will start as no 1. As previously stated the 2.5% reduction is for team building purposes only, not to decide rider positions Craig Cook = 7.73 Rohan Tungate = 7.61 If the press releases were incorrect would of thought by now someone with Colin Pratts experience would of picked up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, scoobydoo said: If the press releases were incorrect would of thought by now someone with Colin Pratts experience would of picked up on it. Colin Pratt hasn't spoken a word yet, since he became promoter . Perhaps you are expecting too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 between the panthers and the robins for me this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 Poor Kings's Lynn. Topped the league in 2018, only for injuries to stop them. Bottom 2 this season. Hope it works out for Buster over the 3 clubs with money over the head to heads, but Lynn will suffer. Don't look like Lynn is his priority in 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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