Justgotmecpc Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, pienpeesman said: Remove Eastbourne for Newcastle And Berwick & Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Sheffield Glasgow Scunthorpe Eastbourne Leicester Berwick Redcar Edinburgh Somerset Newcastle Birmingham Somerset likely to make wholesale changes at some point so their position based on starting line up, but likely to finish several places higher. Don't really understand when people say that about making changes. Why not just start with the best team available in the first place if they are prepared to make changes? I don't think Somerset are. When Berge was dumped we should of been making two changes and made sure Wilson-Dean or similar was coming in. No point waiting until you've lost your first few home matches. There is also not enough fixtures now for averages to vary and bring in someone far stronger for a weaker rider and to also gain ground lost early on in the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Najjer said: Don't really understand when people say that about making changes. Why not just start with the best team available in the first place if they are prepared to make changes? I don't think Somerset are. When Berge was dumped we should of been making two changes and made sure Wilson-Dean or similar was coming in. No point waiting until you've lost your first few home matches. There is also not enough fixtures now for averages to vary and bring in someone far stronger for a weaker rider and to also gain ground lost early on in the season. Plus the riders you would be looking to bring in may have already gone to others in their reshuffles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Plus the riders you would be looking to bring in may have already gone to others in their reshuffles. I quite agree. I'd imagine the teams that don't start well will be looking to Wilson-Dean, Worrall (although unlikely to fit anywhere) and MacDonald to make big improvements so some clubs will end up missing the boat. FWIW I think Bagpuss' predictions are pretty close to how it will finish albeit with Glasgow lower down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Najjer said: Don't really understand when people say that about making changes. Why not just start with the best team available in the first place if they are prepared to make changes? I don't think Somerset are. When Berge was dumped we should of been making two changes and made sure Wilson-Dean or similar was coming in. No point waiting until you've lost your first few home matches. There is also not enough fixtures now for averages to vary and bring in someone far stronger for a weaker rider and to also gain ground lost early on in the season. Quite agree mate, I wouldn’t start with two raw reserves but there seems to be an appetite to have three big hitting heat leaders and the subsequent departure of Berge who would have scored bucketloads at home has made the tail very long. Somerset are a club who won’t settle for not challenging so I think changes will happen once averages alter and a stronger reserve will come in somehow. Of course would much prefer the two youngsters to thrive and not need replacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 with BW-D very hard to fit him in at many places as most have 2 point reserves, so Somerset would have to ditch one of top 4 as an example. Many Teams close to 38 point limit too. If a rider with higher average than BW-D gets injured early he is a shoe-in candidate you'd think. I still think he will go to one of 3 most southerly Clubs - Birmingham (for Castagna or the Danish lad); Somerset or Eastbourne (for Morley maybe?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I had Somerset in my top 4 but not now, Sheffield. Redcar, Edinburgh and either Glasgow or Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, HGould said: with BW-D very hard to fit him in at many places as most have 2 point reserves, so Somerset would have to ditch one of top 4 as an example. Many Teams close to 38 point limit too. If a rider with higher average than BW-D gets injured early he is a shoe-in candidate you'd think. I still think he will go to one of 3 most southerly Clubs - Birmingham (for Castagna or the Danish lad); Somerset or Eastbourne (for Morley maybe?) I'd of had Kurtz and Berge out for Wilson-Dean and any other. Much more entertainment value and the strongest top 4 in the league. I can't see the German troubling the scorers too often and Kurtz is alright if he makes the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Eastbourne drop Morley for Wilson dean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Najjer said: I'd of had Kurtz and Berge out for Wilson-Dean and any other. Much more entertainment value and the strongest top 4 in the league. I can't see the German troubling the scorers too often and Kurtz is alright if he makes the start. Kurtz has come from the back loads of times at Sheffield, not giving him credit there Edited February 10, 2019 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 8:11 PM, pienpeesman said: And Berwick & Leicester I only did top 4 and bottom 4 rest will be in the middle... Newcastle will be wooden spoon contenders without big changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just as fans said last year & where did we finish... So let's see who is eating there pudding at the end of the season with that Massive wooden spoon & I bet it's not the Diamonds roll on the 29th of march for our 1st meeting at Redcar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 6:26 PM, pienpeesman said: Just as fans said last year & where did we finish... So let's see who is eating there pudding at the end of the season with that Massive wooden spoon & I bet it's not the Diamonds roll on the 29th of march for our 1st meeting at Redcar Newcastle will be very difficult to beat at Redcar , 3 track specialists . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 This is my view of positions Sheffield - VERY STRONG THROUGHOUT Newcastle - A SURPRISE PACKET Somerset - HEAT LEADERS & AFTER A FEW MEETINGS BWD Redcar - IF THE LOWER ORDER KICK IN Eastbourne - HOME ADVANTAGE IS HUGE Leicester - LOOK SOLID Glasgow - NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUS YEARS Berwick A LOT DEPENDS ON JAKOBSON & ETHERIDGE Scunthorpe- COULD PROVE PEOPLE WRONG Edinburgh - LACK OF TOP END POWER Birmingham - LACK OF HEATLEADERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Norfolk Bear said: This is my view of positions Sheffield - VERY STRONG THROUGHOUT Newcastle - A SURPRISE PACKET Somerset - HEAT LEADERS & AFTER A FEW MEETINGS BWD Redcar - IF THE LOWER ORDER KICK IN Eastbourne - HOME ADVANTAGE IS HUGE Leicester - LOOK SOLID Glasgow - NOT AS STRONG AS PREVIOUS YEARS Berwick A LOT DEPENDS ON JAKOBSON & ETHERIDGE Scunthorpe- COULD PROVE PEOPLE WRONG Edinburgh - LACK OF TOP END POWER Birmingham - LACK OF HEATLEADERS Not sure how Somerset will bring BWD in after a few meetings, Covatti will up his average and the two pointers wil, still be a minimum two even if there averaging 1.5, points limit is still 38 I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Tigerforever said: Not sure how Somerset will bring BWD in after a few meetings, Covatti will up his average and the two pointers wil, still be a minimum two even if there averaging 1.5, points limit is still 38 I believe? And a further problem is 16.3.3 A rider in a Team's declared 1 - 7 at the end of the previous season and not included in that Team’s new season’s initial declaration may not be subsequently re-introduced into that Team from the 2018 Rulebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, arnieg said: And a further problem is 16.3.3 A rider in a Team's declared 1 - 7 at the end of the previous season and not included in that Team’s new season’s initial declaration may not be subsequently re-introduced into that Team from the 2018 Rulebook Being Speedway there will be a way round it , not really bothered, not my team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uluru Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, arnieg said: And a further problem is 16.3.3 A rider in a Team's declared 1 - 7 at the end of the previous season and not included in that Team’s new season’s initial declaration may not be subsequently re-introduced into that Team from the 2018 Rulebook For whatever reason, you didn't quote the whole rule. Final sentence is "without the express permission of the Management Committee" As Wilson-Dean has been put on the sidelines through no fault of his own, but by Workington closing, a request to reintroduce him at Somerset would probably be granted. But on the other hand, would they want him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, Uluru said: For whatever reason, you didn't quote the whole rule. Final sentence is "without the express permission of the Management Committee" As Wilson-Dean has been put on the sidelines through no fault of his own, but by Workington closing, a request to reintroduce him at Somerset would probably be granted. But on the other hand, would they want him? I intended too quote the whole rule, cut and paste error on my part. Would the MC use its power - well that is pretty much impossible to second guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Another way to look at it.... This is a Championship side - BWD wasnt in Somersets Championship side last year as there wasnt one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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