HGould Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: Can't wait to see Drew Kemp's kevlars -- gold plated? Expect the Speedway Star to dub Kemp the King of Bling. Th young people of today.....etc etc etc Can't imagine that the Company who has made them will be too happy with Len for announcing how much they have cost, anyone know who makes his?? I'm pretty sure rival manufacturers will be having a right belly laugh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 8:29 AM, cityrebel said: Len used to charge top dollar at the Wick when Hackney had a poor team, so it's nothing new. These days you need to hang on to your fan base, not drive them away. I used to go to Hackney on a regular basis in the old days. Can't ever remember feeling I'd been ripped off. Racing was great and always a good fun atmosphere. I see that the kevlar issue is now becoming THE topic of conversation !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, East End Fan said: I used to go to Hackney on a regular basis in the old days. Can't ever remember feeling I'd been ripped off. Racing was great and always a good fun atmosphere. I see that the kevlar issue is now becoming THE topic of conversation !! I don't give a monkeys about the kevlars. I know i paid £16 at Leicester last night to watch the likes of Harris, Nicholls, Lawson & King. Only £1 more than Lennie will be charging this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Drew Kemp in #kevlargate I have to say i have nothing against Drew or where he chooses to get his kevlars made its just a really poor example from Len of how costs are rising as in examples like this they are not rising he is just choosing a more expensive brand. All other clubs blame stadium rent or medical cover increases to duck out of it so nothing new but he would have been better of saying we have signed an expensive team that i expect to get a lot of points so need to up the gate money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Richard Weston said: I too have nothing against Drew. Sadly, his promoter has left him wide open by publicising the cost. Reasons, as above from Sings4Speedway, would be much more acceptable. seen Drew at Leicester on Saturday night and Sheffield yesterday, did OK Saturday but well out of his depth at Sheffield, may be he should go back to his old gear. #kevlargate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 6:29 AM, HGould said: Strange move from Len, who normally gets things right!. Could argue comparison with Belle Vue (who have 2 Teams one in PL) is a bit unfair, but Kent still easily most expensive in NL. What also confuses me is that in terms of "rival" he only has one geographically at Eastbourne and potential for them or Kent to attract support from Lakeside / Rye House and the London area, you'd think would be prime consideration. Len in NL raises prices to £15 and has no OAP concessions. Eastbourne move up to CL; have new management who tell everyone that they have a carefully designed plan; and who then go £16 which is equal lowest in CL from what I can see for Adults; and looks very good value; also bring in new concessions for OAP's at £14 (according to their website they had no OAP concessions in NL?????); - which means that they charge a £1 less for higher league for any OAP to go and watch in the South East of England. Quite what Drew's kevlars has to do with it, who knows?, other than Drew should find someone else to make his kevlars who is not ripping him off, and Len should not rip fans off with such a tame excuse. Hopefully for Drew they won't get ripped in his first meeting or Len might be raising prices again! Wouldn’t say that’s strictly true. Made many gaffes while Rye promotor, but, give him his due he kept the club running. £15 is too much for speedway at any level in this country nowadays. Sport’s on the slide massively. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Lens only doing the sums for the 65-25 mashings each week, even the home fans will get brassed off with that eventually 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Ben91 said: Wouldn’t say that’s strictly true. Made many gaffes while Rye promotor, but, give him his due he kept the club running. £15 is too much for speedway at any level in this country nowadays. Sport’s on the slide massively. So if the sport's "on the slide massively", the promoters should charge less than they do and put it into complete oblivion ? Rye fan Ben91 now has no team to support. I'll bet he wishes he had one ( at Rye House) at ANY price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, East End Fan said: So if the sport's "on the slide massively", the promoters should charge less than they do and put it into complete oblivion ? Rye fan Ben91 now has no team to support. I'll bet he wishes he had one ( at Rye House) at ANY price. The product is constantly on the decline. Ramping prices up further is going to do nothing but drive more fans away. There are other ways to draw a crowd, namely promotion. I wish Rye were still running but towards the end I was picking and choosing my meetings because the sport simply wasn’t value for money. So no, not at ANY price. The generation of fans who are/were happy to turn up and lap up whatever tripe was being served up, up and down the country are dying out, just like British Speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ben91 said: The product is constantly on the decline. Ramping prices up further is going to do nothing but drive more fans away. There are other ways to draw a crowd, namely promotion. I wish Rye were still running but towards the end I was picking and choosing my meetings because the sport simply wasn’t value for money. So no, not at ANY price. The generation of fans who are/were happy to turn up and lap up whatever tripe was being served up, up and down the country are dying out, just like British Speedway. There is that word again! PROMOTION. Last season I went to all but what turned out to be the last meeting at Rye House. They have a large advert just by the road entrance which had the next meeting date and time. Trouble was on all but two meetings when I arrived it showed the details of a previous meeting. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, surely changing that hoarding should have been the first job on the day following a meeting. Edited March 26, 2019 by Chris116 Missed out a word! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 I recall Silver putting up the price at Rye one season stating he wanted his riders to have ‘top’ machinery. I think they finished near the bottom! Its what he does as he’s a business man first. If attendances are affected then he takes the blame. Half his team are school kids who would probably ride for pocket money so don’t understand his logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Like my pal 'ruckeroo' posted earlier. Len's preparing himself for some hefty pay outs, at home and away this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Too right, that's one thing I'm looking forward to at Eastie. Some closer competitive meetings! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 22 hours ago, Richard Weston said: You are totally right. He has built a team to score 60 home and away. Mildenhall did that last year and we know what happened. Accepted Eastie had the (financial) pain of some big home wins too. Len should know better. Wasn't he the man who coined the happiness is 40-38 saying? That idea makes sense from so many viewpoints Mildenhall's crowds were good regardless of the opposition last season. People love to see a winning team so will still come along whatever they think the score will be. This should balance out the amount that will be paid out for the big home wins etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard Weston said: There is a point when things get out of kilter. Huge home wins cost big time. I cannot speak for the Mildenhall crowds last year, which you say were good. However, were they good enough to pay for the steamroller Fen Tigers? I don't know But, what I do know is that last year's promotion has not continued. This year's team is not of the same order, in terms of expense, I suggest. I would accept there is some great young talent. Reading between the lines, I do wonder if Mildenhall felt financial pain from such big wins. I don't think the finances were an issue. I believe we had a budget and stuck to that through the season. Jolly talked before last season started that it would potentially be his last so the reason to sell wasn't a surprise. I suspect if the new promotion thought the crowds would be an issue financially they wouldn't have carried on this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Why are we reading stuff about Mildenhall on the Kent page ? Nothing against the Fen club, been there a few times and always enjoyed it in spite of having a problem finding a seat. Important for me these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, East End Fan said: Why are we reading stuff about Mildenhall on the Kent page ? Nothing against the Fen club, been there a few times and always enjoyed it in spite of having a problem finding a seat. Important for me these days. Because it’s relevant to the discussion about Kent perhaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Season ticket is 280 quid which if it includes programme needs 16/17 meetings to pay for itself. Normally get at least 20 plus home fixtures so looks good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Season ticket is 280 quid which if it includes programme needs 16/17 meetings to pay for itself. Normally get at least 20 plus home fixtures so looks good value. Looks steep to me. Only guaranteed 12 official meetings (silverski meeting Inc) So either hoping to make the final of every competition or you have a few challenges planned. Depending on what they are it may not be great value tbh. Mildenhall's is £169 which includes the guaranteed meetings, programme and a club polo shirt. Any extra meetings are then paid for separately which makes sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Season ticket is 280 quid which if it includes programme needs 16/17 meetings to pay for itself. Normally get at least 20 plus home fixtures so looks good value. Seems really steep to me. I can get a ST for my football team next season for about £180! Be interesting to learn how many Kent sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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